Funny you bring that up. At the time that the Grizzlies did there deal, they were ridiculed for salary dumping. But the move produced so much now that most, if know everybody had to eat crow on it. The fact is that the astros HAD to gamble on some prospects. Whether the prospects they got were the wrong ones or not remains to be seen. But the astros certain have gotten talent back.
Not to knee-jerk or anything, but now I know what it feels like to be on the opposite side of a Morey trade. Ugh. Such a bitter taste of disappointment. Oh, wait. Here comes the sweet bliss of foaming fanboy cognitive dissonance. (Geez, took my brain long enough.) These mediocre ATL prospects will now be automatically elite in the crappy Astros farm system! Ahhhh. Okay, I'm good now. Go Astros.
Ed Wade is a moron and everyone knows it. The reason they leaked stories about the price being too high is because everyone expects to get over on Zippy the Chimp. Once you get that rep (Non-Morey) it is hard to actually get equal value. Anyone defending this trade baffles me. It is obvious Wade asked for fair value, got no offers, then took whatever he could. The plan should have been if ChimpMan cannot make the deal then you let the next GM do it. **** you Ed.
Photoshop request: Jim Crane's face on Donald Trump's head yelling you're fired at a mini Ed Wade. TIA
When we said "Go Coogs" we really didn't mean it like that. Ed Wade is Tim Purpura all over again. Weak sister deals.
The city and org sends daily thanks that you're wrong. Purpura couldn't restock the minors or make the majors significantly better
One has to think that the Bourn trade was a salary dump, part of the salary dump that the new owner has allegedly asked for. Wade could very well been following Crane's exact marching orders. Wade's reward may be getting fired at the end of the season. Sux to be him.
When the new owner is holding $687 million... and he says he wants the payroll down to $60 million... there is no way you're not trading Michael Bourn. No matter what you get in return, ultimately.
Could have traded Bourne during the off season. Would not have to deal Bourne for spare parts if Wade did not give extensions for Myers and Wandy. Wade is doing what he can to save his job. From what I have been told, it will not work. Wade has been pretty bad. I hope the Astros get lucky and one or more of the players they got for Bourne turn into good players for the Astros.
Worst part of this mess is I'm starting to miss Drayton already. Never thought I would say that. The $60 million payroll directive is unconscionable.
So, I've been mulling it over all weekend, and have generally kept it to myself, but now I figure I'll post. Generally in baseball, if you have a player that you don't have to trade (as in, that you have under your control, and you can keep), to win a trade, you need to get a prospect that might be better in return. The Astros traded the best two players that they have under their control, at any level, for a whole bunch of players whose ceilings are much below theirs. They got beat wholly and soundly. The best that can come out of these two deals is a PCL championship for Oklahoma City, because we didn't get a single player back that will be a Major League All-Star, even if the stars line up just right, and we traded two All-Stars away. It's bad, ridiculous, and it hurts as a fan. I don't like getting beat on the field, but when you're getting beat on the field, and in the front office, it gets ugly. If I let sports get to me, it would be depressing.
Um who cares about a 60 million dollar payroll? Crane and Postolos want to put the lion's share of their money into international free agency and the draft for the time being. This should've happened a long time ago.
Your point is valid for the Bourn trade. Highly unlikely any of the 4 returning prospects in their careers will have a bigger impact at the major league level than Bourn has. Cosart and Singleton on the other hand, I believe they have a decent shot to surpass Pence's major league production and value to a team in their careers.
