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Astros - 2011 MLB Non-Waiver Trade Deadline

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by rockets934life, Jun 15, 2011.

  1. Buck88

    Buck88 Member

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    Hope not. It seems to me the better deals/offers come at the deadline as opposed to the offseason.
     
  2. hoopstar

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    what the hell is the point of keeping pence for another couple of months and then dealing him?? Just to draw a couple hundred extra fans who want to see pence in an astros uniform once more? i think now it def the time to trade if you want to get the most for him, just like last deadline would have been the best time to trade myers....stupid stupid stupid...
     
  3. J.R.

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  4. Disciple of RP

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    Apples and oranges.

    Meyers' value was at an all-time high and a pet-rock could have foreseen a slip back to reality...now his contract is a hindrance.

    Pence on the other hand....

    EDIT: That being said: I'd be happy to see Pence go for Singleton, Cosart, +
     
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    Singleton, Cosart and another prospect, if true, is one hell of an offer. I hope it's just the Astros trying to make a leverage play, because that's a great deal and one worth doing before the deadline.
     
  6. Phillyrocket

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    Absolute BS
     
  7. The Cat

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    Pence on the other hand has a sky high BABIP that almost certainly will regress to the mean, perhaps making him an even worse player than in recent years based on a falling HR rate and rising K rate. Pence is a league-average RF having somewhat of a career year based on unsustainable peripherals. It's almost an identical scenario to Myers last year.
     
  8. CJLarson

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    Coast or Cosart??
     
  9. Disciple of RP

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    True that, on the BABIP...no way he'll sustain, obviously.

    I can't put Pence and Meyers as identical situations at all, however. And we'll just have to disagree about the "average" RF remark. He's no superstar, but he's pretty much a "mini-5-tool" player...and his intangibles seem to be a plus from where I'm sitting.

    ADDED:
    IMHO, I think the biggest similarity here is that neither player will/would help us with what we need to be doing: REBUILD!
     
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  10. The Cat

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    Cosart. He corrected the tweet.
     
  11. J.R.

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  12. cardpire

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    oh no. a "rival gm" said that? daaaaaaaaaaaamn
     
  13. Buck88

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    Pences value - just like Meyers - is at an all-time high. He is having a career year and if Wade can get 2+ bluechip prospects I dont see how you can walk away.
     
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    Turning down a offer for two of the top 50 prospects in all of baseball plus another player for a outfielder who is good but no supertstar makes no sense. Plus Pence is going get expensive and no point of paying him $8-10 million while team is losing 100 games.
     
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    Might be a leverage play. Plus, the Astros know that unless they have upset Philly to the point they no longer want to negotiate, they can probably come back to that deal and get it done.
     
  17. Nook

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    I don't believe they really offered that package for Pence. It simply does not make sense.
     
  18. rockets934life

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    If Justice comes out with an article a year from now and tells us we could have had Cosart and Singleton only to turn it down, Wade would have earned the rep of being an idiot in two cities. That is a package for a superstar player let alone a real good player.

    All that said, this could be leverage or a Halladay/Toronto type situation. Toronto gambled that Halladay's value would increase with more teams involved so they waited to the winter meetings. It actually backfired a bit but in theory not a bad play, problem here is that Halladay was established while Pence's value is at an all time high and can only go down...risky play.
     
  19. dreamfellas21

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    can we trade happ as well. :-/ he blows.
     
  20. CJLarson

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    IDK if this has been posted but, it looks good to me.

    The Phillies have been aggressive in pursuing Pence and there are indications that they would include Domonic Brown in a trade for him, according to Jim Salisburyof CSNPhilly.com. The Astros are looking for multiple top prospects for Pence, the Phillies' top target.

    Would love to get Dom.
     

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