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ESPN mentions Kevin Martin

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by htownfan_9210, Jul 26, 2011.

  1. Pieman2005

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    He is what he is. A scoring role player. Kevin isn't a star or a leader.
     
  2. coachbadlee

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    It doesn't even matter what anyone outside of Houston says about Martin. He will never get that type of respect here. What a shame.
     
  3. T FOR 3!!!

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    People were calling us a big 3 with t-mac, artest, and yao... K-mart, tmac, and yao would have been twice as deadly... K-mart has a Ray Allen type game(obviously not as good a shooter).. but his skills are better set to play with a ball stopper so he can spot up and draw fouls and score in transition very efficiently. He'd be the one who go you those quiet 25 points every night that wins you the game... K-Mart is incredibly underrated..
     
  4. _RTM_

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    It's all about making plays for him. If Kyle is standing and knocking the ball and then shooting the ball over the hands of his defender off the dribble, no surprise that K-Mart is disappearing. But Lowry was able to make them last season just like Rafer did in his breakout year. Can Kyle continue playing this well? I dunno. But if not, Martin will step up
     
  5. sammy

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    You don't score 24 a game that efficiently and be deemed as a role player.

    He is an elite scorer and a borderline star.
     
  6. RedRedemption

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    Carl Landry was our sixth man.
    Kevin Martin was a career role player in Sactown.
    Jamal Crawford is a sixth man.

    Some players just fill certain roles. Kevin Martin isn't aggressive, nor is he arrogant (a good kind of arrogant). Without those qualities he's never going to be a true star in this league.
     
  7. Mr. Clutch

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    The dude is a scoring beast and a big reason our offense was so prolific last year.

    I'm glad he's a Rocket.
     
  8. VBG

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    You sort of compared him to Jamal crawford who scored 20 points per game once while shooting 41%. But Crawford has that aggresive arrogance adn takes ridiculous shots.

    I think K-Mart is a star. I think you're confusing star and superstar.

    Don't you think Kevin Love is a star?
     
  9. conquistador#11

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    naw man, this mini mart sucks. What good is it if he scores 30 but his matchup scores 50 which happens every single game.
    Dirk Nowitzki would never ever ever allow a luis scola to score 30 points on him, while he only scores 18 points. Never!(sometime late january)
     
  10. redhotrox

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    I'm happy he's a Rocket, but we still need a better number one option at the end of games. From the hype surrounding Marcus Morris around here, hopefully that's him.
     
  11. Gertso

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    I wonder how annoying threads like this would be if the Rockets were a big market team.
     
  12. apollo33

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    who the hell scores 50 against Kmart every single night.
     
  13. coachbadlee

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    His imaginary superstar.
     
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    Hayes Davenport, Celtics Hub: I spent a lot of time on this question because when you look back on the history of the league, there are some pretty strong candidates: Jerry West, John Havlicek, Kendall Gill. But at the end of the day, I asked myself, "Which of these guys would I want on my team?" So I'm going to say Michael Jordan.


    That quote made me giggle a little(Don't know if he was being sarcastic or not). Because, Kendall Gill was a good shooting guard with great athleticism in his day, BUT ...
     
  15. larsv8

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    Don't know why people think the word role player is such a bad thing.

    I just always think of him as a role player who is really really good at the one thing he does.

    To me there is such a thing as a good franchise players: Kobe, Lebron, Wade, Dwight, CP3, etc. and then bad ones: Melo, Amare, Gay, etc. Not to say they are bad players per say, but that they just arent good enough to be built around.

    The same thing goes with Role Players: Good: (almost all of our guys), Bad: (Ariza, Salmons, Bogans, Bonner, etc.)

    I don't think having a roster of good players is a good thing.
     
  16. Deckard

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    I think that's a pretty good description of the guy. If he'd ever learn to take over at the end of games, as well as play a bit of defense, he'd get bumped up to being a star without the qualifiers. That, and if he played a key part in a deep playoff run with the Rockets. At this rate, he might be a member of AARP when/if it happens.
     
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    That's a lot of "ifs."

    Kevin Martin is between all-star and great role player.
     
  18. W22_STREAK

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    Kevin Martin just needs another star to go along with him. He is currently the best player on our roster right now, and he is not meant to be the best player on your roster as the number 1 option. Give him a legit star to pair with and watch Kmart compete for the scoring title.
     
  19. W22_STREAK

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    I don't know why some of you are labelling K-Mart as a "role player". "Role-players" are players like Courtney Lee and Shane Battier who are average NBA players that are necessary to complete a team. They are often very good at one or two skills, i.e. Reggie Evans and rebounding, Lee and defense and 3's, and will have a stable, but pretty average NBA career.

    K-Mart on the other hand, is one of the most efficient scorers in NBA HISTORY. When you do something that ranks in the top levels in NBA HISTORY, you should be distinguished away from the ranks of the average role player such as Reggie Evans and Courtney Lee.

    Compare K-Mart with Michael Beasley for example, K-Mart is almost better than Beasley at everything for their respective positions, and yet Beasley is being touted as a very promising star prospect every time he scores 20 points in a game. Beasley's ceiling is probably what K-Mart is now, a very good scorer for his position and pretty average at other aspects, but the difference there is K-Mart is historically good, while Beasley is no more than a Mo Williams at most.

    When you draw as many freethrow attempts per game as Kobe, you should be honored much more than a "roleplayer".
     
  20. Toast

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    He's more of a Reggie Miller type. Makes great cuts and moves without the ball. The object of the offense should be to find him open in his spots. What you're describing is simply not his game.
     

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