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[ESPN] The Dish on Point Guards

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by infinitidoug, Jul 25, 2011.

  1. DaDakota

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    WTF are you talking about?

    I know exactly what I said and meant, disgusting that some folks get upset when people have a different viewpoint than yhe one they like.

    DD
     
  2. candlegreen

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    Well, this is Oxford's definition of "career."

    'Career is defined by the Oxford English Dictionary as a person's "course or progress through life (or a distinct portion of life)".'

    I guess you could make the argument that the journey is part of your career and "careers" change. Your current career is what you do, and you can go to school to enhance your career options.

    In a way, you could say that Lowry was a backup, career-wise. But calling someone a "Career Backup" seems to have different implementations. He's converted his career status to that of a starting PG. Does that really make him a "Career Starter?" I have to admit that does sound somewhat erratic.
     
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  3. DaDakota

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    I can see how it would be confusing, and that it seems black and white.

    At the end of the day, who cares?

    Aren't we just lucky that he had a CAREER year last year?

    ;)

    DD
     
  4. rhino17

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    last year he definitely was not an elite defender. If he goes back to playing how he has in the past, then that might apply, but he was pretty bad on that end last season. His offensive game improved a lot though so hopefully he can combine the 2 next season
     
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    Me too, and I've been a fan of his since he was at Villanova. I always thought he was the best player on that team, even when Randy Foye was a lottery pick, and I thought he'd be a legit starting PG in this league. That being said, I never thought he'd be a scoring threat from outside of 20 feet. His shooting has taken him from top-20 PG range to top-10. I just hope it's not an aberration.
     
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    i believe he will be an all-star candidate for next season. mark it.
     
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    The only thing I'm worried aboot is Lowry's shooting. Was last year just a fluke that he's suddenly bombing from the outside.

    Lowry's game doesn't have a lot of weaknesses, as long as he plays smart and shoots well, he is up there with the all star pg's.
     
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    here's hoping Kyle will continue growing as a player. there were times last season he really looked special.
     
  9. Carl Herrera

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    Why disgusting man digust me?
     
  10. DaDakota

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    Because you are mentally weak, and let little things like other peoples opinions bother you, unfunny man.

    DD
     
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    lol, You're lucky I didn't factor in Blocks and Steals. Or how many games he'll be within 6 inches of the starting Center.
     
  12. pgabriel

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    my everlasting memory of lowry will be him killing steve francis as a rookie in 07. i was so sad. at least he came here and turned out to be good. wouldn't memphis love to still having him leading a contender?
     
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    I don't know if there is a single entity in the universe that is a more gut-wrenching combination of wrongness and confidence than DD.
     
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    it's a BS circular argument, and you know it's BS.

    according to your logic, only "career starters" should start, so a player needs to be a start right out of the draft, or else they are a "career backup" and should not start over "career starters" ... an argument made especially dumb since brooks was a "career backup" when the rockets drafted him.

    you also realize kobe was a "career backup" until he became a starter, right?? as well as steve nash??
     
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    The very assertion of Lowry being a "career" backup constituted a prediction. It entails future performance therefore it is a prediction.

    I know that in the end we're all fans and it's great that he played well etc. However, that should not grant immunity to people who have clearly erred in their predictions of the players.

    Anyway that was my last reply to this. I know this won't change anything. We're all probably stressed that there could be less games next season.
     
  16. DaDakota

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    I miss about as much as anyone else, the only difference is that my misses are constantly brought up, and my makes are ignored....

    Que cera cera....

    DD
     
  17. Carl Herrera

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    Saying that you miss as about as much as anyone else is like saying Aaron Brooks sucks at defense about as much as anyone else or Von Wafer is a dumbass about as much as anyone else.
     
  18. DaDakota

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    The only thing I see with Kyle is that a lot of people are overating him after last year, and it reminds me a lot of how I felt about AB.

    Now, AB's injury had a lot to do with his decline, as did his attitude about missing out on the big contract, I think Kyle is a lot more "Get down to it" and less of a whiner.

    Which is a great thing.

    I hope Kyle continues to shoot well and play good D, but in no way do I think he is at an elite level for a PG, he is great in transition, good on D, and average in the half court.

    Still a massive upgrade over Rafer.

    The reason I like Brooks over Lowry last year is his ability to get his own shot off, and still have decent assist numbers, his D was never going to be great, but he put so much pressure with his offense that he was a big positive.

    At the end of the day, I think both Brooks and Lowry will be quality starters in the NBA, and the Rockets were lucky to get them both, but NEITHER of them are on an elite level and if the team can upgrade that position, they should still look at it.

    As much as I despise Chris Paul, he would look great in Red and Mustard.

    DD
     
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    As entertaining as it is to watch a weasel weaseling his way out of trouble, we do need to set a few things straight.

    The original argument was who should start between Brooks and Lowry. Bringing up "career backup" in that context can only be an attack on Lowry's caliber as a player, implying that he is and will always be a backup caliber player in the league.

    Certainly it is not a mere factual representation of what he was at the time, like the weasel is trying to twist it, since 1. like many have pointed out, almost every "career starter" used to be a "career backup" in that sense, so it wouldn't even be relevant to the argument(AB was a "career backup" before he started) 2. it's not even factually accurate as Lowry started half the games in MEM the year he was traded here.

    It's one thing to just be wrong. It's another to be arrogant and wrong. However, to be an arrogant, backtracking, weaseling fool after being proven utterly wrong is a whole new level of douchebaggery. Well done, sir.
     
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  20. DaDakota

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    Look, CarlVanUnfunnier, I know you don't like me, and I really don't care.

    Am I right about everything?

    Nope, not even close, but the ridiculous claim that I miss more than others is just flat out wrong.

    There are plenty of "Rights" but I don't have a legion of posters dedicated to running around pointing them out in every thread, like the DDingleberries such as yourself.

    It's cool, just go back to making obvious "Johnson" jokes, at least that is something you can...uh....handle.

    DD
     

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