Spend a little extra time and hit Stinson Beach and Point Reyes Lighthouse - you won't be disappointed. I'm going up on Aug 21st for some IT work I'm doing at PG&E's headquarters there on Beale Street. I make a point of going to Far East Cafe (in Chinatown) one of the nights I'm there. If any Rox fans are out and about, come join me for some of the best Chinese food in town (IMNSHO).
noted. pgabs... i spent 5 days there over july fourth weekend and share your sentiments to a t. just a flat out gorgeous city with tons of things to do. really made me wonder what i iwas doing living in houston when there are places like SF and northern cali. then i realized i had no money.
don't know why i didn't follow my cousin in there while we were down there... he said the food at far east was amazing.
Been living here since June 2008, and it's pretty much home now. The city is kind of like a playground with the different neighborhoods, parks, scenery, and weather. There are some issues with living here, however: - Cold summers/Fog: wearing a jacket in the middle of July is annoying at times; beautiful days are typically cut short around 5P when the fog rolls in - Crazies/Bums: you kind of learn to live with this, but they're all over the place, and even in nicer neighborhoods, screaming at things/people only they see - Money Grabs: the city will squeeze every dollar out of its residents. Parking tickets, tow fees, muni passes, 9.5% sales tax, etc. - Home Ownership: SF is one of the few places in which it's usually a better financial decision to rent rather than buy. Hell, the 1 BR/650 sq ft place upstairs from me is on the market for $600k. Aside from those few negatives, SF is a great place to spend your late-20's and 30's, especially if you don't have kids.
this just comes from not traveling much and living in the south, but we arrived very late and the first thing that caught my eye was the lights going up the hills. you really didn't see the hills just the lights, driving along the highway at night was like one of those old racing video games.
not to turn this into a d&d thread, but i've spent plenty of time in SF, and, other than an occasional Barry or Willie, there are no black people in SF- it's the whitest city in the country. even the asians are white.
oj is from frisco, just sayin seriously if frisco is one of the whitest than oakland's one of the blackest, that's where too $hort is from
on an even more serious note to your post basso, i have a lot of relatives who live there actually, at least considering we are all from this general area. but a few relatives moved out there before my uncle, right after wwii. i asked my parents about this, how did blacks accumulate some land in san francisco in those days i hope my father's response doesn't rile some of you up, but he basically said "before there were mexicans there were blacks". the only point he was making was that a lot of blacks actually moved to northern cali and cali in general for the work. metioning oj, he's actually originally from louisana i believe.
no doubt; my point wasn't about the bay area generally (although does apply to Marin), but about the city of SF specifically. east bay, particularly OAK, is another story. Emeryville (where my company is located) to a certain extent as well. SF is striking, since it prides itself on being such a liberal city, yet, there's an almost total absence of people of color on its streets.
i know, and i'm not disputing your claim. i don't know the dynamics, i didn't see a lot of black's when went to fisherman's wharf. however, we at a popular restaurant on san franciso and polk in the middle of downtown and at least 15% of the patrons were black. but about my relatives i was just pointing out it was interesting. for instance one of the old guys who moved there in the forties wasn't rich, but his family (he's passed away) owns his old home, its worth over a million dollars. they don't have to so they aren't selling
The 2010 United States Census[136] reported that San Francisco had a population of 805,235. The population density was 3,472.5 people per square mile (1,340.7/km²). The racial makeup of San Francisco was 390,387 (48.5%) White, 48,870 (6.1%) African American, 4,024 (0.5%) Native American, 267,915 (33.3%) Asian, 3,359 (0.4%) Pacific Islander, 53,021 (6.6%) from other races, and 37,659 (4.7%) from two or more races. Hispanic or Latino of any race were 121,774 persons (15.1%). White: 48% Asian/Pacific Islander: 40% Hispanic: 15% African American: 6%
California is very compartmentalized. In houston it is true mixed in. It's weird in CA the black people just don't go to where the white people are and vice versa. I am in san diego, and will go long periods without seeing a black person ...The black people in california seem different than in the south. I can't believe I just read ,and responded to a basso post.
That just shows you didn't spend that much time in SF. There are a few neighborhoods that have a lot of blacks. Pgabs is correct though that many blacks have been squeezed out due to gentrification.
Also if you don't like the weather in SF you can just go to the other side of Twin Peaks and its different. If SF feels too cold in the summer you can take BART over to Concord and it will be at least 20 degrees warmer.
I get what he is saying in that the black people are definitely more cosmopolitan in SF than the south. I would say at the same time the white people are more cosmopolitan in SF as well than in the south. It's a perception of attitude that transcends race but makes the black guy seem white. along the lines of the 'tiger woods is a white guy because of the way he talks' template. SF sort of brings the hippy types in as well. You get 'some' of these whitewashed tiger woods types black guys types, and then the black hippy jimi hendrix type of black guy ,and 'those types of black guys' do gather in places like sfo more than other places where black guys may gather. It is a different subset of people within a people ,and especially if the reference point is a group of black men from new orleans.... you can't tell me one group doesn't *seem* whiter as basso would say. Im not defending violent black activism but when a well spoken black militant spoke no one seemed to accuse him of being white or 'speaking white' do you think he was not being true to himself by speaking in english properly and intelligently or would it have been more well served to speak in a more informal way, as to honor the language,and its place in the representation(street talk)? I think its okay for him to speak clearly ,and well spoken and not 'seem white' but I get what basso is saying. anyway I am out of here on this topic before it gets too hot for bbs.
