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Oslo bomb: suspicion falls on Islamist militants

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by AroundTheWorld, Jul 22, 2011.

  1. Northside Storm

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    I'd dispute that number, just parsing through that list of yours, there seem to be a fair amount of Christian, unknown or anarchistic terrorism going on. Certainly, Islamic terrorism is high, but that's partially skewed by the fact that there are two raging wars going on in Islamic countries, and the fact that a third, Pakistan, is near being a failed state because of it.

    It's also skewed by the fact that what is defined as terrorism is somewhat sketchy. I looked for and noticed that the Christmas massacres of 2008 committed by the Christian Lord's Resistance Army were missing from the list.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Christmas_massacres_(Congo)

    Which goes to say, you shouldn't close the book on anything statistically and assume your position is supported without the research.

    heart goes out to the dead.
     
  2. across110thstreet

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  3. AroundTheWorld

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    Well, then just continue being a stubborn liar.
     
  4. Northside Storm

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    Also, for people thinking this is coming out of the blue, Europe has had many issues with right-wing extremists recently.

    http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/0,1518,759349,00.html

    http://english.alarabiya.net/articles/2011/07/23/158887.html

     
  5. FranchiseBlade

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    Your facts on the percentage of terrorist attacks are inaccurate.
     
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  6. AroundTheWorld

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    Unfortunately, this is a problem.

    Also, there are instances of Islamists cooperating with Neo-Nazis in Europe, because of their common hate against Jews.

    http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/0,1518,706245,00.html
     
  7. Northside Storm

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    I don't think these people have any grasp of the irony of their situation, the kind of people who do these kind of acts often only have a very short-term view.

    There's also neo-Nazis in Israel...composed of Israeli citizens born in the Soviet Union. smh. The Nazis were probably busy trying to kill their ancestors...anything to fuel irrational hate, I suppose.

    I sincerely hope that these misguided individuals get over their hatred.
     
  8. SamFisher

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    This thread is really super epic monument to fail. Not only did sir jackies kneejerk muslim bashing end up farting in his own face - but bbs icon gwayneco tried to play the sarcasm "must be right wing christians extremists" card - and it was. Hall of fail-ame quality.
     
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  9. Northside Storm

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    Seriously though, targeting individuals working for peaceful dialogue and the future...I mean, sure you have a bone to pick with the government, but the youth wing of a political party? What the f**k.
     
  10. AroundTheWorld

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    Interesting statistics, 50 % of all arrests for murders and robberies, kind of shocking.

    But much less DUI and liquor law violations (like 11 %).

    But these are arrests, not convictions. So, a certain racial bias of the arresting officers may or may not have played into the percentages.
     
  11. AroundTheWorld

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    You are just bitter that your desperate attempt to be a witty and funny jerk by starting that other thread was largely ignored.

    What is left is that you are just a bitter jerk.
     
  12. AroundTheWorld

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    It's about as sick as it gets, really.
     
  13. pgabriel

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    and in the low 30's in the areas of forcible rape, Sex offenses (except forcible rape and prostitution), aggravated assault, burglary, and larceny/theft.

    still below 40% in the areas of "violent crime"


    still a statistical fail of a blanket statement like the one I responded to.

    in a thread about suspicion falling on muslim militants.

    about a story that has to do with a terrorist attack in Norway.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/24/w...-E-FB-SM-LIN-DTR-072311-NYT-NA&WT.mc_ev=click
     
  15. AroundTheWorld

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    Does it make a difference if it is 75 or 99 %?

    The point is that it is

    1) normal that the media, like everyone else, was asking the question who could have been behind this
    2) normal that the media looks at the most probable scenarios first.

    It's just important that the media should label speculation as speculation, and not sell it as fact.
     
  16. dback816

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    Your condescending attitude only makes you seem angrier

    While Blacks are only 12% of the population? Sounds serious, the crime percentage is even higher when you start isolating specific locations or types of crimes...oh wait, you're not honestly trying to set a "bar" for when it's okay to start discriminating based on numbers right?

    It's strange you don't see how ridiculous your stance is
     
  17. across110thstreet

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    agreed 100%. I was just about to post something like that.
     
  18. Big MAK

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    It's pretty hard to believe that a single shooter took out 84 people. Are there more details? Was it just 1 guy or were there more? What kind of gun did he use?
     
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    I read some reports today that said the police is looking for a second person. But I haven't seen further confirmation.
     
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    Pistol and shtogun, dressed up as a police so that fooled a lot of people

    I hope shooters in the future don't take notes....
     

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