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[Official] Texans Offseason 2011

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by Castor27, Jan 3, 2011.

  1. Hey Now!

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    So you basically have $14M to sign a player who made $14.25M last year. How are you going to fill-out the rest of your roster which, oh btw, is now down a pretty good starting DE?

    I don't have #s in front of me but we have to be realistic about what they can actually accomplish. It looks like, at the very least, they'll need to get creative.
     
  2. Joshfast

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    Dallas will sign an impact FA, even being 19 million over. Good teams work the cap and make appropriate cuts. The Texans on the other hand use the cap and the media to forge built in excuses in the weakest balled media market in the country.
     
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    I am so ready for this agreement to get reached I have spent wayyy too much time following the NFL network and following twitter. They have been close for nearly 3 weeks now. Players just vote and approve the deal already...
     
  4. DieHard Rocket

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    I'm not advocating cutting Smith, as it would be a huge gamble, but if it netted a solid corner AND safety in free agency it might be worth it.

    I've seen some things showing that with exceptions and whatnot, the cap will "feel" like $130 million (Schefter said this). But who knows how that will work with this FA class. I'm not setting my expectations high...I think Sensabaugh and a marginal CB might be all we come up with. If that CB is Rogers, well, better than nothing. I'll be thrilled if we got any one of Weddle, Joseph, Nnamdi, Landry, or even Ike Taylor instead. But my hopes aren't high with this front office.

    Perhaps we can front-load a signing bonus with any big FA signing to lower their cap figure, giving us another year to balance out the team salaries.
     
  5. emjohn

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    Reordering:

    Players:
    Arizona $37.3 million under
    Buffalo $35.9 million under
    Carolina $30.6 million under
    Chicago $37. million under
    Cincinnati $35.9 million under
    Cleveland $33.3 million under
    Jacksonville $31.4 million under
    Kansas City $34.3 million under
    Seattle $39 million under
    St. Louis $35.6 million under
    Tampa Bay $59.2 million under

    Middle Class Shopping
    Atlanta $13.9 million under
    Detroit $16.6 million under
    Miami $13.6 million under
    New Orleans $11.7 million under
    Philadelphia $13 million under
    San Diego $19.4 million under
    San Francisco $18.9 million under


    Pocket Change
    Baltimore $5.33 million under
    Houston $7.6 million under
    Minnesota $5.1 million over
    New England $7.57 million under
    Tennessee $10.3 million under
    Washington $10.6 million under


    Oh Noes!
    Dallas $18.9 million over
    Denver $1 million under
    Green Bay $62,600 under
    Indianapolis $2.7 million over
    N.Y. Giants $11.3 million over
    N.Y. Jets $1.2 million over
    Oakland $10 million over
    Pittsburgh $10 million over
     
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  6. emjohn

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    What'll also be interesting is the rumored 90% cap floor. Notorious cheapskate owners are going to have to spend more dough than normal. All of sudden, you may have small dollar franchises offering huge front loaded deals to meet the requirements.

    Have to Spend at Least:
    Arizona $25M
    Buffalo $24M
    Carolina $18.5M
    Chicago $25M
    Cincinnati $24M
    Cleveland $21M
    Jacksonville $19.5M
    Kansas City $22M
    Seattle $27M
    St. Louis $23.5M
    Tampa Bay $47M

    It may end up being a very good August for Vonta, Sensabaugh, and anyone else in a "pay me" place. Seattle may give Leach that "richest fullback contract in NFL history" just to help get their salary floor met.
     
  7. justtxyank

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    I will not be "mad" if they make some moves and go after impact players. What will irritate me to no end is if they limit themselves to bargain basement signings and say they tried their best.

    There's no "building something" left in me personally and I hope there isn't any left with McNair. I won't be happy if they sign a few mediocre players, have a mediocre defense and miss the playoffs by one game. I won't want to hear how "close" they are at that point.
     
  8. justtxyank

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    $6 million for a steady but non-impactful player to play DE in a 3-4. (Originally signed as a non-pass rushing end in the 4-3)

    He should restructure or be cut for sure imo. Way too much money for a player of his caliber.
     
  9. DonkeyMagic

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    Smith is overpaid but he isn't cuttable. He's one of the only consistent linemen the texans have. A restructuring would be nice though but doubtful.

    Amobi could be restructered but i have a feeling they will let it slide this season.

    I think slaton almost has to be cut if they bring back ward and tate is 100%.
     
  10. justtxyank

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    Amobi has no business being kept. He doesn't even have a rotation spot going in with Wade. Wade has talked about Cody and Mitchell as his DTs. Amobi is useless.
     
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    I have a feeling that they aren't going to require that to be hit in a 3-day free agency period. maybe it'll be something like 75-80% and then 90% next offseason. I haven't kept up with everything regarding the negotiations but I don't see why the players or owners would go for that if it had to be done immediately ... that gives 2011 free agents a clear advantage over any other year, and also causes the owners to potentially destroy their roster balance and cap situation for the future.

    I think it's still too early to tell whether we'll be able to make significant offers in free agency. We just don't know the intricacies and the workarounds possible with the new CBA, nor does anybody have any precise information on how our current players contracts are structured.
     
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    With some of the NFL's most powerful and richest owners at the forefront of these lockout negotiations... I'm having a hard time believing that the likes of Jerry Jones, Daniel Snyder, etc would be in favor of and vote for an agreement that would handicap them in free agency this way and SO SOON.

    The Texans, among other teams with high cap numbers, WILL be able to be serious players in free agency. How? We'll just have to wait for the official agreement to surface to see.
     
  13. DonkeyMagic

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    maybe, but i still think they will give him one last shot this season. I'm not saying it's right, but it's likely.
     
  14. Icehouse

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    +1

    We always have excuses for this team. Good teams draft well or manage their cap well. If we don't have enough to sign help and improve our team then that's a problem, considering our team is mediocore.
     
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  15. DonkeyMagic

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    what's the voting rule? 2/3rds? 3/4ers? i would have a hard time those owners would allow this as well, but maybe they were simply outvoted
     
  16. DonkeyMagic

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    does not compute based on last years showing.
     
  17. rezdawg

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    FWIW, I don't think Amobi would be completely useless...he may be decent as a DE in the 3-4.
     
  18. Hey Now!

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    Did DM post a link? I read this several times and would be pretty surprised if the Bears were $37M under - I'm wondering if that should have been $3.7M under?

    The good news is that among the "players" - I can't see any of those teams attracting Asomugha - unless Chicago really is $37M under.
     
  19. Hey Now!

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    The owners are pushing for it - a smaller cap puts more money in their pocket.
     
  20. vinsensual

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    After the NFLPA votes and approves, it goes to the owners. And the owners have to get 75% approval, or 24 owners have to be on board. That's as much as I've gathered from today's NFL live.
     

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