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[Men's Journal] James Harrison rips Goodell, Roethlisberger in article

Discussion in 'Football: NFL, College, High School' started by moestavern19, Jul 13, 2011.

  1. moestavern19

    moestavern19 Member

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    He's clearly in defiance of his boss and needs disciplinary action.

    I would think something like a 50k fine and maybe a 1 game suspension.
     
  2. justtxyank

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    Dude. Invalidate implies his argument is "invalid" (I know, mind blown) and "dull" or "overshadow" is implying that his argument is hidden from the discussion because of the outrageous manner in which he presented it.

    I'm sorry that English is difficult for you. :(

    I don't think he we will be cut. He will be chastised publicly by the Rooneys for the comments however and will likely face league discipline when the lockout is over. Discipline that will go unchallenged by the Rooneys.
     
  3. baller4life315

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    Thanks for the English lesson, buddy.

    Why don't you look up context while you're at it.

    Great stuff, huh? You've been arguing all this time to point out the obvious. He'll get a fine, maybe a suspension, he'll still be a Steeler and the Rooney's will still support his position on the league's 2010 fines + ambiguous language.

    Everybody wins!

    Now, can we take this painful conversation out to pasture and put a bullet in her now? :)
     
  4. Two Sandwiches

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    I think it should be greater. When did the interview take place again? Was it right before the lockout started? I thought I heard April, but could be wrong....

    I honestly think that 6 games and 100k is about right. The guy is a repeat offender, who won't shut his mouth. He needs to be taught a lesson. If he thinks they're singling him out, he needs to shut his mouth and play the game. What other job can you call the CEO of your company all those names and keep your job?

    To play in the NFL it is a privilege. If you sit there and run your mouth about how unfair it is that you're singled out all the time (WAH WAH WAH), then don't play. Plain and simple. He should have followed through with his original "threat."



    Baller, as far as me "working for the front office" or whatever, watch the film. Harrison is a dirty player. He launches with his head when he tackles. He tackles high while leading with his head. Even when it's a quarterback standing there after a pass, not moving. There's video evidence out ther (see: Fitzpatrick, Ryan). Goodell is not picking on him like an innocent third grader who gets his lunch money stolen.
     
  5. baller4life315

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    You can call him dirty if you want. Hell, by league definition he must be 'dirty' if he's shelling out $100,000 in fines. I'm not going to argue that (people say the same thing about Hines Ward). Sort of makes you wonder what it's really all about but I digress.

    My issue is I don't feel there's ever going be a practical or consistent way to enforce these rules. Especially with the NFL expanding on what exactly constitutes a 'defenseless player'. I mean, it seems like any time a QB drops back for a pass or a WR goes across the middle of the field you're going to have a borderline fine/suspension-worthy situation.

    And unless it's really blatant (i.e. Brandon Meriweather type stuff), it becomes incredibly subjective. Too subjective for my liking.
     
  6. plutoblue11

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    In general, it's not just Goodell. It's team owners in general who want that rule. These owners put so much capital into getting, finding, and keeping these QBs able enough to play games and sell tickets. Even players in general. It would happen under other commissioners.

    The Carson Palmer/Brady (expanded) rule was a big sign of protecting the QBs. It think the taking out the going for the head rules and not being able to hit below the waist gives QBs too much of an advantage. In certain scenarios, if he starts to escape, that may be the only option is a leg tackle or trip with your hands. That's been a legal play for the last 100 years in the game, and most QBs didn't get their careers ended over plays like that.
    As far as going for the head, the NFL have effectively taken that our of the game, even though it really may not reduce concussions as much as they think. Alot of concussions still come on sacks, tackles, or hard hits. One can still acquire a concussion from the impact of a basic hit.

    The Trent Cole play against Peyton Manning, really blurred the line, because he only touched his helmet, after inadvertently brushing against it.

    Even with all the rules and protection of players, there are still alot of nasty hitting going on the field. It's a game of brutality, it's that way in high school and college. Suddenly, the guys cannot go full speed ahead against one another. Along with the 5 yard rule, adopted in 78 (still hasn't been introduced in NCAA football).
     
  7. PointForward

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    you guys need to get a life and stop being so damn serious..

    Oh, and LOL with me at this comment by our very own Brian Cushing: "Cushing, when asked to respond to Harrison's remarks, told KRIV-TV in Houston: "I'll pray for him.""
     

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