[Men's Journal] James Harrison rips Goodell, Roethlisberger in article

Yeah. Because it's that simple, right? You should be working for the league's front office if you really believe there will be a consistent, practical and realistic way to enforce all these new rules.

Put it this way: you'll be adding a lot more names to your 'dirty player' list.

 

After the NFL made their threats of suspensions and bigger fines, those uncontrollable illegal tackles suddenly went down dramatically. They can absolutely change player behavior.

 

We'll see what happens now that the definition of a 'defenseless player' has been extended to basically any scenario where a QB is attempting a pass or a WR is making a play across the middle of the field.

It's incredibly subjective and it won't be consistent.

 

I guess baller is a Steeler fan?

LOL at the idea that the Rooneys will "stand behind" Harrison.

 

James Harrison needs to read some books and/or get some help on the side for that case of dumbass he has.

One coverage sack in the SB right? LOL

 

If you're referring to what I said earlier: read again.

When you strip down all the insults the core issue still remains. And not only that but it's fairly obvious how the league has singled him out. He knows it. The Rooney's know it -- and it's precisely why they've 'stood behind' him all this time (with regard to all his fines, etc. this past season). Art Rooney has even gone public with this criticism, even so much to the point where it's been suggested the Rooney's may have a strained relationship with Goodell now over the issue.

So again, not really sure what you're LOL'ing at.

 

Wouldn't it be nice if we could that? LOL

They stand behind him on the fines. That's a lot different than standing behind him after he goes on a hate filled tirade trashing other players, commentators, teammates and the league commissioner.

I'm loling because I guarantee you when they are allowed to comment on the situation they will not "stand behind him."

 

Everybody knows he's emotional (obviously to a fault). This is nothing not a soul in the Steelers organization isn't aware of. Just because he crossed a line or two doesn't mean he still doesn't have a point. If you read between the lines it's quite obvious what he's really upset about.

 

any evidence to back that up?

 

You don't have to go far into his signature to tell he is a Steelers fan.

James Harrison is singled out, because he singles himself out. He opens his mouth way too much. He does go out there trying to knock everyone out of the game.

 

I don't think you get the point. You seem to be under the impression that everyone is too stupid to realize what his underlying beef is. We get it. He doesn't like the rules. (Though I'm not sure how that is relevant to him trashing his teammates, the rest of the league's players and two former players on networks now)

The problem is you want to talk about his underlying issue with the rules and forget the fact that he DID cross the line. It doesn't work that way. Once you cross the line you don't get to say "I know I went too far but think about my point!" You went too far. You lose your support base when you do that. The Rooneys are not going to back him up after the things he said.

 

This is pretty simple: just because he went over the line it doesn't invalidate his entire argument. An argument that the Rooney's have a record of supporting (in regard to the fines + ambiguous language the league uses).

If you feel all that should change now that hurled some insults and acted like a fool, so be it. Like it or not, he still has a point.

 

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/6765621/nfl-james-harrison-reckless-words-dull-point

 

Agree to disagree, I suppose. Personally, if I see a problem....it's still a problem.

And this is not to say Harrison doesn't deserve some backlash -- he does. But to discredit him entirely? I guess you've never seen a Shaq interview.

 

harrison's clearly portraying an image, yeah its stupid but it is what it is

dude wants to be ray lewis

 

Who has said anything about invalidating his argument? For some reason you think people are going to think about his underlying point in a hate filled tirade coupled with pictures of him holding weapons. When you say and do really outrageous things, your point becomes secondary and all anyone is going to talk about is the fact that you are an out of control donkey.

The Rooneys may support him regarding the rules in the NFL, but I guarantee you ($10 tip jar bet?) that when they make a public statement on this matter it will not be one of support.

 

The link juicystream provided suggests just that.

I understand what you're saying and you're obviously entitled to your opinion. Personally, I consider the content of the entire message. I mean, given the overall sentiment in this thread you would think this was some sort two-minute post-game interview gone bad rather than a lengthy write-up in a magazine (that touched on a number of issues). Regardless, if I find something interesting enough I'm not going to stop reading just because I saw something outrageous. Maybe that's me, though.

And as far as making wagers or anything of the sort, I don't really see the point. He'll still be a Steeler and the Rooney's will still support his position on the absurd fines + language the league has used this past year. Certainly, they won't condone the type of language he used so this idea of a wager has a very high chance of ending in a stalemate.

 

Did you read the article?

It's not about whether his argument is invalid, it's that it is going to be lost because of what he said and the picture that accompanied it. The only person who's going to take into consideration the underlying argument is you, a Steeler fan.

 

Are you really trying to act like the words 'invalidate' and 'dull' don't carry essentially the same meaning in this context? C'mon now. They both diminish the weight of his message (which is exactly the point I am defending).

Quit making this difficult.

I get it: you're appalled by what he did. So am I. He has a valid criticism but he went about it ENTIRELY the wrong way (and he'll pay the price for it). Just don't be surprised whenever the Steelers don't cut him or whatever knee-jerk course of action it is you would suggest should happen.