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Wisconsin Legislators Leave State to Prevent Vote

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  1. mc mark

    mc mark Member

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    So is physically attacking a woman worse than sending a dirty picture over the internet? Seems Mr Prosser has some explaining to do.

    Wis. Justice Ann Walsh Bradley: Justice Prosser 'Put His Hands Around My Neck In Anger In A Chokehold'

    New details are emerging in this weekend's story that Wisconsin Supreme Court Justice David Prosser -- a member of the court's 4-3 conservative majority who was just re-elected to a ten-year term in a heated race that involved a recount and vote-tabulating controversies -- allegedly attacked liberal Justice Ann Walsh Bradley during an argument over the court's recent decision regarding the upholding of Gov. Scott Walker's anti-public employee union legislation. Now, Bradley is speaking up, and saying publicly that she was assaulted by Prosser.
     
  2. tallanvor

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    Two sources have claimed this is bogus and that Prosser was attacked (more than the one source claiming the opposite).

    http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepolitics/124546064.html

    To answer your question, If she was choked that wouldn't be okay. Right now it looks like Prosser is in the clear, but Bradley might be in trouble. You can't attack another judge obviously.
     
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  3. mc mark

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    weak

    Until the "un-named source comes forward, I'll take the word of the lady who was attacked over a coward "who shall remain anonymous"

    And apparently this misogynist has a history in dealing with female jurists.

    Prosser's History With Fellow Female Justices

    The latest alleged incident involving Wisconsin Supreme Court Justice David Prosser can't be viewed in isolation. Last year, Prosser exploded at Chief Justice Shirley Abrahamson in a closed door meeting, calling her a "b****" and threatening to "destroy" her.
     
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  4. tallanvor

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    I believe it's two different sources claiming Bradley attacked Prosser, as opposed to Bradley claiming she was choked.

    Either way, the police (or whoever handles such matters for judges) can just go ask the other judges what happened. Should be an easy issue to resolve. The instigator should be removed from office.
     
  5. rocketsjudoka

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    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43734158/ns/politics/t/all-fake-democrats-lose-wis-primary-recalls/

    All 'fake' Democrats lose in Wis. primary recalls
    Republicans placed candidates to delay general elections

    MADISON, Wis. — All six fake Democrats lost to Democrats supported by the party in primaries Tuesday that are the first in a series of recall elections targeting nine Wisconsin state senators for their positions on Republican Gov. Scott Walker's divisive union rights restrictions.

    The winners advance to take on incumbent Republicans targeted for recall on Aug. 9.

    The state Republican Party orchestrated the placement of the fake Democrats on Tuesday's ballot, thereby delaying the general election for a month. That gave the Republican incumbents more time to campaign and distance themselves from the turmoil over the union law that they voted to support in March, spurring the recall efforts.
    Story: Wis. voters send governor strong, angry message

    Five of the six winners had at least 65 percent of the vote, based on unofficial results. The sixth, Shelly Moore, had 54 percent.

    Moore defeated Issac Weix, a Republican on the ballot as a Democrat who had previously run twice before and lost as a GOP candidate for the state Assembly. The St. Croix County Republican Party sent emails and paid for phone calls on behalf of Weix, urging Republicans to support him in the Democratic primary.

    But Moore, a 37-year-old Ellsworth public school teacher from River Falls in western Wisconsin, prevailed. She will advance to face Republican Sen. Sheila Harsdorf and independent BJ Cook, both of River Falls.

    In the 2nd District, former De Pere mayor and Brown County Executive Nancy Nusbaum, 64, easily defeated fake Democratic candidate Otto Junkermann, an 82-year-old who served as a Brown County supervisor in the 1980s and one year as a Republican in the state Assembly.

    Nusbaum, who had 65 percent of the vote with 99 percent of precincts reporting, will face Republican Sen. Rob Cowles in the general election.

    In the 32nd District, state Rep. Jennifer Shilling of La Crosse handily defeated fake Democrat James D. Smith, a former county Republican executive committee member also from La Crosse. Shilling, who had 71 percent of the vote, takes on Republican Sen. Dan Kapanke.

    State Rep. Fred Clark defeated fake Democrat Rol Church of Wautoma in the 14th District to advance to take on Republican Sen. Luther Olsen. Clark got 67 percent of the vote.

    And in the 18th District, attorney Jessica King, 35, defeated John Buckstaff, 81, a retired furniture business owner. King, who had 69 percent of the vote, will face Republican Sen. Randy Hopper.

    Huge stakes
    Tuesday's primaries marked the first of four recall elections during the next five weeks. The six targeted Republicans voted for Walker's bill and the three Democrats fled to Illinois for three weeks to delay a vote on the measure that takes away collective bargaining rights from most public employees.

    The stakes are huge. If the Democrats gain three seats, they will take majority control away from the Republicans and be in a position to stop Walker and the GOP's agenda.
    Story: Tens of thousands at pro-labor rally in Wisconsin

    Republicans can vote in the Democratic races because Wisconsin has an open primary, raising the possibility of further mischief in the elections. State Democratic Party Chairman Mike Tate said he was concerned Republicans would attempt to vote for the fake Democrats on Tuesday, but he was confident the real ones would prevail.

    In Republican Sen. Alberta Darling's district in suburban Milwaukee, several dozen voters waited in line at Glendale City Hall about noon to choose between Democratic state Rep. Sandy Pasch and fake Democratic candidate Gladys Huber.

    Pasch won with 67 percent of the vote.

    Jim Krivitz, a 66-year-old retired museum executive, called the primary "phony." He said he was voting for Pasch in part to register his disapproval of Darling and her GOP colleagues.

    "I don't like the way the current Republican administration is moving precipitously to the right on everything," he said.

    Democrats like 'little children'
    Self-described conservative Walter Schoenfeld, 69, said he was voting for Huber to protest the actions of 14 Democratic state senators who fled the state.

    "Democrats played like little children," said Schoenfeld, a retired health care administrator. "What's the saying? Elections have consequences. Live with it."

    There is a Republican primary in two other races on July 19 and a general election in the Green Bay area with Democratic Sen. Dave Hansen versus GOP challenger Dave VanderLeest. The general election for the other two races targeting Democratic incumbents is Aug. 16.

    Also Tuesday, Planned Parenthood of Wisconsin public policy director Chris Taylor emerged from a field of six Democrats to win a primary for a seat in the Assembly representing a portion of Dane County that was vacated by Joe Parisi when he left in April to serve as Dane County executive. Taylor has no opposition in the Aug. 9 general election.
     
  6. CrazyDave

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    <:rolleyes:> let's see, Republicans are disguising themselves as Democrats and running in Democratic primaries,and the state has open primaries, and they all lost. They are deliberately delaying elections in order to have more time to campaign to distance themselves from the turmoil caused by ... well... them. < /:rolleyes:>
     
  7. geeimsobored

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    Putting fake opponents in primaries isn't particularly new or novel. However, what is really sad is that the Wisconsin Republican Party openly said they were doing it. Normally parties just pretend that they didnt do it. In fact I'm certain that this type of boldness is unprecedented.

    It speaks to how polarized politics are in Wisconsin now. There was a podcast on This American Life about the Wisconsin recalls and how its ripping communities apart. Districts that have elected moderate democrats or republicans with significant party cross-over are being destroyed over this. And even the vote itself was terrible for moderate politicians. Moderate Republicans who initially opposed the bill were arm-twisted by Scott Walker into voting for a bill they didnt want and moderate Dems were forced to run away by the state party. The normal consensus building that was standard for Wisconsin politics got thrown out the window.

    Even at campaign announcements for the recall, people from the other party would show up and heckle/taunt the candidate. People openly fought each other at rallies, etc... And the ironic thing is that both the democrat and republican that are running in the election they covered like each other and have worked together in the past on legislation. Yet their supporters are declaring open war on each other. Small communities are being torn over this.

    In short, Scott Walker sucks. He ruined that state.
     
  8. leroy

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    Makes it sound even more dumb when you put it that way...if that was even possible.
     
  9. CrazyDave

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    Might have been sadly funny if the Dems had gone ahead and done the same thing to see if they could beat them. Except with funnier names.
     
  10. tallanvor

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    These recall elections are spoiling the real news, which is that the bill is working far better then expected:

    http://washingtonexaminer.com/politics/2011/06/union-curbs-rescue-wisconsin-school-district

     
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    http://www.postcrescent.com/article/20110629/APC0101/110629072/Story-documents-Kaukauna-schools-project-1-5M-surplus-after-changes?odyssey=tab|topnews|img|FRONTPAGE

    Scott Walker is the man. Helping the kids while balancing the budget.
     
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    Yeah, except he could have had these changes with collective bargaining, but instead he decided to violate the Constitution and say "f that".

    Of course, every time we punish teachers with lower pensions, that's a win for everyone, AMIRITE. more for the 1% crowd, less for those evil and onerous teachers, with their dedication to our kids, and all that.
     
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    1 down, 8 to go...

    The weakest Democrat won in a landslide tonight in the first of 9 senate recall elections

    Wis. Dem State Senator Wins Recall In Landslide

    With 65% percent of precincts reporting, Hansen is winning by 69%-31%, and has been projected as the winner by the Associated Press.
     
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    I love seeing politicians called to account for what they've done.
     
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    <strike>Elections have consequences.</strike>
     
  19. mc mark

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    What? You don't like seeing politicians being held to account for their actions?
     
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    Good thing the Dems in WI are not wimps like Obama. If you notice Obama, who is sort of the titular head of the DemocraticParty has not commented on the Wisconsin situation.
     

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