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Casey Anthony Trial

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Sajan, Jun 18, 2011.

  1. KingCheetah

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    Just like OJ!
     
  2. TheresTheDagger

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    One thing that bugs me about this outcome.

    There were 3 possible outcomes.

    Guilty, Not Guilty, or Hung Jury.

    You mean to tell me there wasn't a single juror who was convinced that Casey had a part to play in this?

    Not Guilty means she gets away with it. No double jeopardy.

    If I'm on that jury, I stick it out until its considered hung. I couldn't let it end this way. Just my humble opinion.
     
  3. RocketsPimp

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    Jurors have difficult jobs, especially in death penalty cases, but it's not the same as a soldier may kill, see killings or even be killed themselves. Comparing jurors to soldiers is a horrible analogy. It's not even the same ballpark.

    I watched the trial since day 3 or 4. I saw everything the jury saw and everything they didn't see. I am also well aware that during deliberations the jury 1) did not review the evidence, 2) did not review the testimony, 3) did not ask any questions of the Chief Judge and after the verdict was read they 4) would not take questions or let their identities be known.

    One juror has since made a statement that she doesn't believe Casey was innocent, while another has said they will talk if they are paid. The only person that is talking is an alternate that has said "The prosecution did not prove their case. The big question that was not answered, now, how did Caylee die?" NO! That is not the big question for the jury! The questions were did Casey Anthony commit premeditated murder (1st degree), murder which was not premeditated (2nd degree), aggravated child abuse, aggravated manslaughter of a child (this is the one they should have got her on at the very least since it has to do with the "killing of a human being by culpable negligence of another") and 4 other charges related to providing false info to law enforcement in reference to a missing person (her friggin' daughter!!!!). Yes, we all want to know how Caylee died, but that was not the purpose of this trial.

    I believe the jury was obligated to review the info in this case much more thoroughly after nearly 6 weeks of evidence and testimony. There is no way in hell they should decide someone's fate or freedom in a death penalty case after only 10-12 hours given the details of this case. No reasonable person does what she did, so how can any jury accept the reasonable doubt of the defense's story which was based on obvious trail of lies and a story (drowning) that never once surfaced in the 3 years prior to the trial?? The prosecution's evidence, while circumstantial and lacking the proverbial smoking gun, was pretty solid if you saw it presented. Sorry, but I believe the jury owed it to the state of Florida to really comb over the details before rendering a verdict....guilty or not guilty. They failed in that regard IMHO.
     
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    What I'm learning about law is that it's really easy to kill someone as long as there is no witnesses. CSI is full of s***.
     
  5. Space Ghost

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    We can all agree on one thing, no matter the manner in which we view the case; Casey has a severe disconnect with reality in some form or fashion.

    Cause of death and motive are VERY VERY important. I suppose its not important if you already assumed the cause of death and the motive, but our judicial system is based on innocence until proven guilty. If you have no concrete cause of death, or reasonable motive or concrete evidence, you have no case. Cause of death is the sole reason this case fell apart.

    Lets assume it was an accidental drowning. Yes, i know this was not the case, but we don't know how she died.
    Would an accidental drowning automatically constitute:
    1st degree murder?: No
    2nd degree murder?: No
    child abuse?: No
    manslaughter? No

    The reality is we don't know what happened and the prosecution allowed the defense to pick its points apart. If she is truly rotten to the core, then she will have the same fate as OJ. She will screw up again and the prosecution will be much wiser on getting a conviction.
     
  6. Space Ghost

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    If you're just now realizing CSI is FOS, then both you and casey need a reality check.

    But yes, premeditated murder is very easy to get away with if you put some serious thought into it. Couple it with the 5th amendment and no witnesses, the prosecution has a very hard case.
     
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    Judge Cleveland talks very slow.
     
  9. Lady_Di

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    Judge sentences Casey Anthony one year in jail and $1000 fine for EACH of 4 counts of lying to police, served consecutively. Judge will give her credit for time served, the total amount to be determined this morning.
     
  10. juicystream

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    You know the Jury has lives and jobs outside the courtroom, don't you? If all 12 don't think the evidence was there, then you do what they did. She is still going to jail. A lot of this case was just plain weird.

    If she really wanted to kill he daugther, she could have just pushed her into the pool, then turned around and called 911, and maybe this would have been ruled an accidental drowning.

    Remember when everyone thought the JonBenet Ramsey was killed by her parents? DNA evidence has shown otherwise in recent years.
     
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  11. Lady_Di

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    She will be released next Wed. Party time??
     
  12. apollo33

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    More like Judge Cee-lo..
     
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    Was he (DA) the one laughing during the closing argument, or the other way around?
     
  14. Rocket River

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    You know that will be one hell of a party.

    What is the over/under on going back to jail that night for
    1. Public Drunkenness
    2. Coke or some other drug
    3. something else

    Rocket River
     
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    Jurors' responseAfter the trial ended, the 12 jurors did not initially want to discuss the verdict with the media.[95] 51-year-old Russell Huekler, an alternate juror who stepped forward the day of the verdict, said, "The prosecution didn't provide the evidence that was there for any of the charges from first-degree murder down to second-degree murder to the child abuse to even the manslaughter (charge). It just wasn't there."[96]

    The next day Jennifer Ford, a 32-year-old nursing student who was juror #3, told ABC News, "I did not say she was innocent," but also, "I just said there was not enough evidence. If you cannot prove what the crime was, you cannot determine what the punishment should be." She said that the jurors were "sick to their stomachs" over the decision to deliver a "Not Guilty" verdict and that it overwhelmed them to the point where they did not want to talk to reporters afterwards.[97][98]

    Juror #2, a 46-year-old male who requested to stay unidentified, told the St. Petersburg Times that "everybody agreed if we were going fully on feelings and emotions, she was done". He stated that a lack of evidence was the reason for the not guilty verdict saying, "I just swear to God ... I wish we had more evidence to put her away. I truly do ... But it wasn't there." He also said that Anthony was "not a good person in my opinion."[99]

    Juror #6, identified by WTSP as Brian Berling, told gossip website TMZ.com that he is willing to be interviewed "so long as the opportunities are paid".
     
  16. rocketsjudoka

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    I have to say that the whole hoopla around this trial is just another sad example of how shallow our society is. The only time we can have a national attention focused on issues of criminal justice is when the perp and / or victim is either a celebrity or young and good looking.
     
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    Yeah, that juror interview did not add up since they could have at least done charge #2 or 3:rolleyes:

    There were seven charges or counts in this case. Each count must stand on its own during jury deliberations.

    Charge 1: 1st degree murder. A finding of 1st degree murder will mean either life in prison, or death. A life sentence in Florida is a true life sentence meaning she will remain behind bars the rest of her life with no chance of parole.

    Lesser Included of Count One, Second Degree Murder: (depraved mind murder, not premeditated) The maximum penalty for Second Degree Murder is a life sentence. The minimum sentence is based on the Criminal Punishment Code. The estimated minimum sentence for this charge and other charges which might result in conviction along with this count would be 24 years, 6 months.

    Charge 2: Aggravated child abuse. The maximum penalty for aggravated child is 15 years in prison. The estimated minimum sentence for this charge and other charges which might result in conviction along with this count would be 12 years, 1 month.

    Charge 3: Aggravated Manslaughter of a Child: If Casey Anthony is convicted of causing the death of Caylee by culpable negligence the maximum sentence is 30 years in prison. The estimated minimum sentence for this charge and other charges which might result in conviction along with this count would be 16 years and 6 months.
     
  19. tallanvor

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    A jury should never consider the punishment in it's verdict. Their job is to determine guilt or innocence, not whether or not the accused deserves the punishment. Now police are going to have to waste time looking for a non-existent suspect, because this lady didn't think the punishment fit the crime. What an ugly moron.
     
  20. dback816

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    You're right. A jury can at least make up his own mind.

    A soldier just gets told what to do :rolleyes:
     

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