"Future CBA" aspect noted (as well as salary cap room etc etc). But putting that aside, the basis for my question is that I believe people's player salary expectations are sometimes off. Do we all hate overpaying for height? Yes. But that's NBA Market Value. If someone doesn't like Biedrins because he is a crappy FT shooter, or gets hurt then so be it. But to just throw out there he is "over paid", forget him etc, I think is short sighted considering relative C's in the league. Everyone likes DeAndre Jordan and Javlee McGee right now, but my guess is when they "cash in" from their rookie deals and get 9/10M per season, they will once again get lumped in with the "over paid" C category.
We have to many players.Someone will have to either be traded or cut. This seems like the best way to go. Only lose two players that are not needed, and we would get a backup center. They need that.We do not need 18 players and about 6 of which are PF.
Understood and agreed. Even though your argument has equal merit notwithstanding the CBA situation, I just thought the bolded lead-in was funny, in that many people use that same lead-in to make arguments that do NOT have equal merit depending on the CBA situation. For most of them (again, not here, Deuce), it smacks of: "Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"
The point was that many felt he was overpaid.....and Deuce is right, height, especially shot blocking height at the center position is paid accordingly. Beidrens would be a market level contract. DD
I agree that Beidrens is worth the risk even with that horrible contract but we need to avoid paying any center over the age of 29 > 8 million per (Haywood).
THIS. DD, if Biedrins was an expiring contract like Chandler's was last summer: (1) The Rockets offer a lot more than Thabeet and Brad Miller; and (2) The Warriors likely don't trade him, anyway.
Paying a 29 year old Chandler (he will be 29 next season) 10 million dollars per would be downright stupid....I hope Cuban does it.
I think you overvalue expiring contracts, I think the good owners value more what the players themselves can do on the floor. DD
Possibly (as a general comment on me), but that doesn't change my argument in THIS case. The entire premise of the Warriors making Andris Biedrins available at all is that he has an "undesirable" long-term contract. Hence, "sharks" (like Morey and other GMs) are offering crap in exchange for said contract. If it was an expiring contract (or for less annual salary - basically, if it wasn't as bad), then the Warriors wouldn't even dignify those trade offers, let alone leak them to the media in order to up Biedrins's (who is VERY much available) trade value.
Bima, I think that is "A" factor but not the only factor. Clearly Mark Jackson doesn't view him as all that important for his new style of play and is willing to let him go. I doubt the new ownership is interested in shedding money as much as it is interested in building the right kind of team and winning, and they don't value Andres highly in that regard, for whatever reason. DD
Biedrins is owed 9M per for the next 3 seasons. That's way too much for 5 pts, 7 rebs, 1 block per game. He shoots like 30% from the FT line. Don't do it, DM!
In 23 MPG. He was also 12 pts 11 rebs a couple years ago before injuries(not chronic) and a mental block at the ft line(Chuck Hayes?). He is also only 25 years old. If he didn't have those problems he wouldn't be available. I think he is salvageable. Cap space is overrated and an even bigger gamble.
We need defense, height, & rebounding.. You're posting his injured numbers, and as stated above he only played 23 MPG. You have to take risks.. I'm not sure of Chandlers numbers when he was with Charlotte, but I'm sure they were not too far off from above. Plus, stats don't tell the whole story.
