Same-sex marriage approved by the state of New York.

Are you back to pretending like you actually care about gay rights? Your record and statements on this BBS prove otherwise.

I guess everyone likes to feel they are on the winning side, and since gay rights won the day here, you hope to switch over to that side, and nobody will notice or remember your previous statements.

 

comparing homesexuality to race again are we?

 

exactly. as someone else state, the state has already involved itself in marriage because of exactly these issues.

 

Yes. It is incredible to me that you continually push back when two groups that have been denied equal rights in this country are grouped as being two groups that have been denied equal rights in this country. The only reason I can imagine for this is that you believe one group deserves equal rights and the other doesn't. Neg rep.

 

no i believe they are two separate issues.

 

too bad he's not cool anymore.

“I know that it’s not going to be exactly the same as when I was young and vibrant and new,” he mused. “And there was — posters everywhere, hope. The logo was really fresh. And let’s face it, it was cool to support me back then. At cocktail parties, you could sort of say, ‘Yeah, this Obama guy, you haven’t heard of him? Let me tell you about him.’”​

he's still plenty narcissistic.

 

narcissistic

god told me to free the people of iraq

 

You're wrong. Equal rights is one issue. In order to better understand a current equality issue, of course we look back to the last time or times this came up. I really don't get why you're so prickly about this. Do you think I'm calling you gay? Seriously, what is your damage? And why do you find it so difficult to just say it was wrong when it happened to blacks and women and it is wrong when it happens to gays? The GLBT community is fighting, one issue at a time, for the exact same equal protections that blacks fought for, also one issue at a time. How could blacks not come up?

 

blacks and homosexuals and women have all different histories of discrimination (as well as others).

i don't have anything against gays being married. i really don't care, but to compare the histories is inaccurate, and that's a fact, and that's all i'm pointing out.


edit: the only getting riled up is you, as usual

 

Duh. That is the case with any useful analogy and it goes without saying so why do you keep saying it? If you felt the differences in those histories meant that there should be a different resolution, I could understand it but since you apparently don't you come off as just saying again and again "Blacks aren't gays! Blacks aren't gays!" I never said that they were. In talking about an unresolved current civil rights issue I made a direct analogy to the most recent civil rights issue that was resolved. Why do you think that hurts your butt so bad?

 

the analogies fail because the histories of discrimination lead to different circumstances for each group. you always bring up blacks when talking about gay marriage and interracial marriage. that is not nearly as important to blacks as gay marriage is to gays. that's the point.

blacks have a whole set of other problems the civil rights movement was about that are still being worked on today.

 

lol, another in the long history of threads where pgabs cannot understand what the word "analogy" means...

 

lol i thought you had me on ignore

 

It's so weird. He seems so intelligent otherwise. Maybe he just needs a dictionary.

 

two things,

a)you compared interracial marriage to gay marriage, not civil rights to civil rights

b) even in the case of gay marriage, there are plenty of gay republicans who vote for candidates against it

 

a) Another in a long line of posts proving you do not understand what an analogy is. I can't hold back any longer. Since you will not look up the meaning of the word, I will do it for you. Hopefully this will clear up future misunderstandings. freedictionary.com: "Similarity in some respects between things that are otherwise dissimilar." An analogy is not a comparison of one shiny red apple to another shiny red apple (or as you said, "civil rights to civil rights") and analogies would be useless if they only compared things to themselves.

b) Yes, of course. Here we can extend the "analogy," as long as you finally understand the meaning of the word, by saying there are Uncle Toms in all such situations.

 

Sorry pgabriel that doesn't fly. There were/are plenty of blacks (or pick any other group that has been discriminated against) who have participated in their own repression, usually because they derive some personal benefit from it. That doesn't really say anything about the issue.

 

I forgot to post this earlier for Shroopy.

http://youtu.be/lVrrtoY--Bk

 

they aren't uncle toms they feel there are other issues that are more important.

 

Any Uncle Tom might employ the same defense. But to continue to engage you on this specific point would be to ignore the fact of you having made the weird non-sequitur in the first place. What was the purpose of changing the subject so abruptly with no apparent logic marrying the fresh (but relatively irrelevant) point to the one in which you again display a weird learning disability when it comes to understanding the concept of an analogy?

It's like we were discussing how to lower gas prices to relieve their burden on the poor and middle class and you suddenly came back with something like, well, you know, many poor people are in favor of high gas prices.