[Zanesville Time Recorder] Kevin Martin: Career is at 'highest point'

Do you have any idea what you're even talking about?

Take all 20 PPG scorers in the league and his % from the field is average, not elite, not bad, just average.

He's better than Monta, Kobe, Rose, Anthony, Rose, Westbrook from the field. And this is COMPLETELY ignoring FTs.

 

People that deem him a role player are disrespecting him. At the same time, he is not a star. IMO though, he takes another step FORWARD this year.

Martin played better D down the stretch last year, and seemed more effective creating shots for himself and others.

 

Howard would be amazing on the Rockets. Imagine him in the post when the double team comes, he can pass the ball to the perimeter to find a wide open Bud, Martin or Lowry. We'd be deadly.

 

He's just as much of a role player as Ray Allen. Not his fault that he's forced to be a 1st option with Ray Allen-esque qualities, that Ray Allen can never be.

 

There might be three , maybe four SG's in the NBA I'd replace him with - starting with Kobe , D Wade and Joe Johnson ..... Thats about it. Martin's no superstar but he's a notch below. Hard to replace what he brings ....

Rather than looking to replace Martin , fix the SF spot with a two way player .... and upgrade the center spot. With the right players in those positions , this team can compete to win it all. Those players dont have to be stars either , just competent on both ends of the floor.

 

I don't think it necessarily means that. It just means this is the best he's been yet. That's exactly what you'd want from a player after you trade for him.

 

does he really believe he is better than manu? lol

 

What teams don't want him?

 

LAL and Heat

 

Ok DD, find me another 0.600 TS shooter we can get for 10M or less. Until then you really don't know what you're talking about, 23 pt scorers are role players now? I guess Melo didn't get the memo, he's only a 25 pt scorer. Weren't you the guy who spammed KM=fool's gold in both CF and Spurstalk? Lol what is it about KM that makes you hate him so much?

 

Kevin Martin is from Zanesville? Get out of here!

 

Hmm looking at the posts seems like everyone's flaming DD, can't really blame everyone, this "one-way" talk is kinda' stupid. Just because you're a one-way player doesn't mean you're less than a 2-way player, its all about the net value you bring to the team. For example Dragic is a two-way player, but I don't think anyone on this board will say he's better than KM. KM's main role is a scorer-that's what he does, he scores. Of course it would be great if he could lock other people down while still scoring the amount he does, however do note that the SG position is home to some of the most dominant scorers in the NBA. Since Kmart already scores 23 pts a game, in order to outplay him the opponent would have to score more than 23 at a higher efficiency, something that's quite hard to do considering KM's TS% is already at 0.600.

For example, if Kobe scores 28 and KM scores 23, does this mean that KM is a defensive liability and should be shipped out? Not necessarily, the Lakers are paying Kobe 16M but he only scored 5 pts more versus a 10M player. Not only that if it was a typical Kobe game he probably did so at a low TS%, so if you break down to pt per percentage KM actually outscored Kobe, its just that Kobe chucked more shots. Again, it would be great if you could find a guy who could score 20+ pts while consistently shutting down the best scorers in the L, but no one can really do that superstars will get theirs no matter what. KM oth, can and did outscore almost all sgs last season in terms of efficiency, and honestly I'll take that anybody.

Its like instead of shutting you down I'll outscore you instead. I really don't care whether the final score is 65-64 or 150-148 as long as we have more pts than opponent at the end of the game.

 

Ok, so Kevin is in my city working out at the PTO

I'll check it out tomorrow, see whats going on...

 

Im not flaming DD - just have a differing opinion.


The Lakers are paying Kobe $24.8m .... The highest paid player in the league.

 

Any teams which want to win champion will not want him

 

Persuasion? Reasoning? factual evidence?

Nope, just a one line sentence that is neither grmmatically correct or make sense. It people like you that ruin otherwise great debates and forums.

 

I can honestly only name 4 SG's I'd rather have than Kmart: DWade, Kobe, Manu, Johnson. I'd much rather play Martin at the 2 and have his scoring production then shore up the 3 spot with a defender than lost the scoring production to replace it with a defender. That would just leave us with a better defender and noone to put the ball in the hoop.

 

Martin isnt a star player but he will compliment any star player well. Sure if some people want to trade him for a 2 way player for an upgrade why not? The problem is, there's no one available and Kmart is the best player we can get at the 2 spot.

Even if we trade him so we can develop a player but the Rockets don't have any other SG with a high ceiling on this team. Kmart is a good player and the Rockets will need his scoring to succeed. Even when he starts to slow down due to age, his shooting touch will still be there and it is a great weapon to have.

 

You can say that you like Kmart but you always talked about trading him but its not like a guy like Dwade is available. I don't get why you always feel the ROckets should trade Kmart while hoping the Rockets to keep a guy like Von Wafer.

Though Kevin Martin isn't a top notch defender, his scoring surely makes up for it and honestly, he isn't a terrible defender as many make him out to be. As long as he doesn't gamble every time and just play decent defense, I don't see why the Rockets should get rid of him. Trading Kmart won't do this team any good because most likely they won't get the same value in return.

The Rockets are fine with the 2 spot. The only position they really need to address in is the 3 spot (hopefully Morris will pan out and be able to play at an all star level) and the center position. IMO, trading Kevin Martin will not solve any of our problems. I know the Rockets are rebuilding but you have to remember Morey made a statement saying they are rebuilding but not tanking. Basically they're trying to be a competitive team while rebuilding.

The only way I will trade Kmart is if the Rockets were able to get a star player back in return. But I will not trade Martin just to make room for others to get more minutes.

 

So you think Kmart last season was his peaked and thats it for him? He's turning 28 this year. Its not like he's in his 30s. I don't know why everyone making it seem like he's so old.