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Huff Post refuses to publish anti-flotilla article

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by tallanvor, Jun 24, 2011.

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  1. FranchiseBlade

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    Since those people don't generally hold liberal positions labeling them as liberals is problematic
     
  2. SamFisher

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    Good for them.
     
  3. NMS is the Best

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    tallanvor is grasping at straws
     
  4. tallanvor

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    what are you referring to?
     
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    Northside Storm, you do realize you are arguing with one of the more ignorant posters on this board, right?

    That's about an hour or two (or however much you spent) of your life you will never get back.

    Good job keeping your cool, btw.
     
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    The article is very snotty in its tone. Huff Post is trying to run a respectable site.

    Maybe the author, if he hasn't gotten too emotionally involved, could try a major rewrite to incude some facts or sort of logical analysis of why he doesn't approve of the flotilla and we should all take the typical Likud line of events in that region.
     
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    I don't like Huffington Post, but I don't get what they did wrong. Freedom of speech does not mean everyone has to publish everything. That's sort of the opposite actually.
     
  8. tallanvor

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    Then why wouldn't Huff Post just say that in the e-mail. Their response was "it's not for us".

    Obviously they have done nothing illegal, but it speaks to their credibility if they are not publishing articles simply because an editor disagrees with the author's view (it would be a different story if they found the author's view offensive).
     
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    I disagree there. They are obviously an agenda-driven site and never pretended to be anything different. Also they are a business and they cater to liberals. Might be bad business posting stuff that would drive business away.

    So I don't think they really had much credibility as a "neutral" news source anyways and I think they would actually agree on that.
     
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    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/03/magazine/mag-03talk-t.html?_r=4

     
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    :rolleyes:

    Nixon: I am not a crook.

    The proof is in the pudding, anyone who acknowledges that the Huff Post does not have an ideological bias is willfully blind.

    i dunno what you're getting at anymore though. You clearly seem to have no problem with censorship or ideological bias if it's on the right wing side of affairs, so I cannot help but marvel at your ludicrous attempts to get at the Huff Post. And I can't help but notice you won't even debate the content of the whole thing.
     
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    So Arianna Huffington is blind? or are you calling me blind?

    Sure I do. I would be disappointed if any news source I subscribed to refused to print an article simply because some editor disagreed with the view. If the news source was afraid of getting sued for libel/defamation/ slander or they found the article offensive then that would be another story.
     
  13. Dubious

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    Maybe your disappointment would inspire you to create your own information domain so you could edit the content.
    (Or you could just post on FOX)
     
  14. Northside Storm

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    my god, dude, your logic is inescapable.

    anyways, here.

    which incidentally, brings me to the point where you still have not unearthed those Fox News attacks on Ronald Reagen.
     
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    I'm calling you blind.

    If Prince Shoobab from Nigeria came along, you'd probably be short a thousand dollars. Of course Arianna Huffington is going to say her news bit is objective...why would you ever believe her though?
     
  16. Major

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    HuffPo isn't so much a lefty site as a progressive site. She does go beyond "left and right" in a way; but progressives and the left have a lot of overlap so they will naturally agree with the left more often. But when righties support progressive ideas, or Obama doesn't, they tend to stay true to the progressive goal rather than the party of the politician.

    Unlike traditional lefties and righties who tend to support their party over ideology, HuffPo tends to support ideology over party.
     
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    Well to point out why it was so snotty. And I suppose why the original poster loves the article.

    The Hamas - Oops, Gaza - Flotilla

    We're on the verge of another "flotilla" to Gaza.

    And the kind of coverage they seek - idealistic humanists and peace activists determined to aid the poor, beleaguered residents of Gaza versus stone-hearted oppressors in military uniforms determined to block them at all costs - would, needless to say, portray Israel in the worst possible light.


    The International Solidarity Movement, Free Gaza Movement, U.S. Boat to Gaza, and kindred spirits want the world to believe there is a strip of land called Gaza that, left to its own devices, would create the Shangri-La of the Middle East.


    All its residents want are peace, harmony, coexistence, and tranquility. Some spokesmen acknowledge that Gaza has a governing authority. A very few even mention its name, Hamas, but hasten to add that it was elected democratically, so end of story. The rest don't give it a name, as it might muddy the waters.

    According to this narrative - a word particularly popular in Middle East discussions- the residents of Gaza face a neighboring oppressor, Israel, which, for diabolical reasons of its own, wants to inflict maximum harm on people whose only dream in life is to live and let live. For these spokesmen, the wealth of vocabulary in the Oxford English Dictionary fails to capture the true nature of Israel's venality.

    Enter, then, the self-described, modern-day Freedom Riders. They're boarding flotilla ships, they suggest, to bring aid, relief, and attention to those trapped in Birmingham, Alabama, circa 1963.

    George Orwell, where are you? You could have a field day with this story.
    Actually, you anticipated it when you wrote about the Ministry of Truth in your classic book, 1984. What were the ruling party's slogans on the outside of the 1,000-foot-tall building housing the ministry? Weren't they "War is Peace," "Freedom is Slavery," and "Ignorance is Strength"? And didn't the ministry rewrite history at will to ensure it always served the party's interests?

    The Gaza flotilla spokesmen are inverting the truth and rewriting history at will to serve their interests. And what are those interests? To prop up the Hamas regime in Gaza and delegitimize Israel.

    ..
    Indeed, with Israel's encouragement, a number of Jewish donors purchased Israeli greenhouses in Gaza and left them behind to help jump-start the local economy. The first reaction was to ransack them, when they could have been sources of flowers and vegetables for the local economy.

    So, let's be clear. The flotilla participants, whether they acknowledge it or not, are handmaidens of a terrorist regime. That regime, not Israel, is responsible for the conditions in Gaza, which may not be enviable, but are a far cry from the dire picture of starvation and stunted growth painted by the hyperbolic spokesmen.


    Israel has only one concern, which is to ensure that Hamas, a declared enemy of Israel, does not get additional means to threaten its neighbor. That's it, pure and simple.

    As has been said, if Hamas laid down its weapons, there would be peace. If Israel laid down its weapons, there would be no Israel.


    The flotilla participants claim their mission is nothing more than humanitarian, but, in reality, it serves the interests of a regime that espouses terrorism, peddles anti-Semitism, and praises the memory of Osama Bin Laden.


    To portray themselves as the new wave of Freedom Riders is to trample grotesquely on the legacy of America's civil rights struggle and rewrite history. Orwell's Ministry of Truth is back.
     
  18. tallanvor

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    When did I say that?
     
  19. FranchiseBlade

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    Here's why they told the writer that it wasn't for them. They like the writer, have used his work before, and will use it again.

    This piece has been pointed out as being full of inaccuracies and biased.

    Rather than say things like that to a writer that normally does a better job, but has a bias in this case and let it get in the way of his writing, they chose to keep it simple and tell him it wasn't for them.

    Had they pointed out all his errors he would have gotten defensive, as he apparently already has anyway, and it would have been more drama for everyone involved and the writers may have ended up burning his bridges.

    They were correct in saying it wasn't for them, because they don't want biased pieces full of inaccuracies on their site. So it wasn't for them. Because they didn't go into specifics with a guy who already can't handle it, they left it at that.
     
  20. tallanvor

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    What are you basing that off of? Did the Huffington Post release a statement?
     

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