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Huff Post refuses to publish anti-flotilla article

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by tallanvor, Jun 24, 2011.

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  1. tallanvor

    tallanvor Member

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    Here is the article they refused to publish. If something was factually inaccurate you would think the editors would simply let the author know.
     
  2. JuanValdez

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    Aren't they free to publish what they want? Freedom and speech and all?
     
  3. tallanvor

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    Of course. Why do you think they wouldn't publish this article? What didn't they like?
     
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  5. Northside Storm

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    :rolleyes:

    yeah, try 30 years or so of jailing non-violent Palestinian protesters, and slapping around Palestinian attempts at negotiation.

    Israel got the monster it deserved in Gaza.

    Even Israel itself factually admits this is false---behind closed doors, of course.

    I am sure there are quite a few who considered Malcolm X and the Black Panthers to be, to say the least, extreme. But their cause was just, and they were reacting to a state that had just acquitted two white men from murdering a colored child and mutilating his corpse. They may not have been as enviable as MLK, but the violence they threatened and acted upon was every bit a part of the civil rights movement and the success achieved through it. To whitewash history away and pretend the Civil Rights Movement was a clean fight through and through is to ignore the fact that when push came to shove, the violence threatened by Malcolm X may have been just as influential as the love preached by MLK.

    Now, do I deplore violence? Yes. I also hate Hamas tactics. However, in terms of certain regimes and situations, I do believe violence is inevitable, and it is up to both sides to resolve it. The West seems to have no problem questioning the distinct lack of MLKs in Egypt or Libya, but when it comes to Palestine, despite a much longer and arduous struggle, we seem to posit and hesitate and focus on terrorist activity, and wonder why there is not more non-violent movement---while ignoring the fact that most of the proponents of non-violence are either in Israeli jails or dead.

    Now, I deplore the Huffington Post for not allowing this to be posted, since it is easily attacked on several items; most notably the distinct use of American appropriation of terrorism to justify some point, wherein that definition ebbs and flows depending on who supports American policy at the time. And American policy ALWAYS has favored Israel.

    I believe in free speech beyond all, so I am disappointed in the Post.
     
  6. Raven

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    Israel has more than enough boosters in the US media, it's refreshing to see a political blog that bucks that trend, for once.
     
  7. tallanvor

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    So the Huff Post didn't publish the article not because it was factually wrong or offensive, but because some editor disagreed with it?
     
  8. Northside Storm

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    It can't actually be factually wrong since there are so precious few facts presented.

    So get it straight, the editor just disagrees with their point.

    Vile censorship. but, you reap what you sow...

    http://www.haaretz.com/news/diploma...er-un-resolution-on-goldstone-report-1.339466

    do not assume this is a free press. do not assume this is a free country. do not assume this is a free world. Fight for freedom, at all costs, and on every front.
     
  9. tallanvor

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    So then the obvious conclusion is that Huffington Post pushes agendas?
     
  10. Northside Storm

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    So does the New York Times, Fox News, Washington Post, the Guardian...or every major media outlet.

    one questions your political savvy and powers of rational thinking if you have not arrived at this conclusion yet, and are amazed by this.
     
  11. tallanvor

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    I beg to differ about some of those news outlets (many liberals on this board would disagree with you too). None the less, why do you liberals b**** and moan about Fox News being supposedly bias when 'every major outlet' is?
     
  12. Northside Storm

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    Heh.

    The Guardian is about as crazy left as you can get. No one will dispute this, I mean they proudly boast it on the front page. I'm an avid reader of the Guardian, but I read with an awareness of the inherent bias in it.

    The New York Times is leftist, Keynesian, pro-free trade. If you've ever read it consistently, you know this to be true. Look at the op-ed columnists they have, and hell, Krugman.

    The Washington Post is right-wing swinging, with a heavy emphasis on right wing perspectives in the op-eds.

    Fox News...not even going there.

    "Why us liberals"...oh boy. first of all, I am not a group of people. Second of all, complaining about one thing doesn't mean you are implicitly ignoring other things. Third, I think your brain is wired to define me as a "us vs them type" and to categorize me as a liberal with a set amount of beliefs and the same talking points as every one else, so I'll let it slide somewhat, but I should say I attack your "liberals" just as I attack the "good old conservatives" in your mind, because I am not defined by simple black and white talking points.
     
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  13. BetterThanI

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    There is a difference between telling one side of the story (Huff Po) and just completely making s#!t up (Fox News). I can't speak for anyone else, but THAT is what I hate about Fox News.

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  14. tallanvor

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    Not saying it hasn't happened, but can you show me an example of Fox News telling a writer/reporter/analyst they can't give their opinion because the network disagrees with their position (Juan Williams, Maura Liason, Pat Caddell, Shepard Smith have never stated such things)?
     
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    uh, why would you really bother if you're just going to hire writers/reporters/analysts that always have the same viewpoint?

    but regardless, here is one such case.

    enjoy.

    <iframe width="425" height="349" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/tcjzdoiL0j4" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
     
  16. tallanvor

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    Juan Williams, Maura Liason, Pat Caddell, Shep Smith, Geraldo Rivera, Kristen Powers, Alan Colmes, .... if you want more liberals on FNC I can give you some more.


    The video said Ailes was afraid of the network getting sued. That's not the same thing. Conservatives would have no problem doing a story about the FDA screwing up. Conservatives hate the FDA.
     
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    wait

    so censorship over financial incentives>censorship over disagreement.

    LOL

    Fox News is objective news until anyone threatens to sue them. Their hard-hitting journalism only gets as far as stifling objective facts that don't suit their corporate masters.

    once again you reveal your simplistic view of the world---this video has some semblance of attacking the FDA. Therefore conservatives would love to run it! WE ARE THE CONSERVATIVE GROUP. You are the liberal group.

    it's kinda hilarious, especially since it actually advocates that Health Canada, a more stringently run government agency, is actually doing its' job and detecting links between corporate products and cancer. I mean, whoops, "human health implications".

    ahahahaha

    hilariously fair and balanced
     
  18. tallanvor

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    Yes. One censorship would be politically biased one wouldn't.
     
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    A repeat to reemphasize...

    there, Fox does both, happy?
     
  20. tallanvor

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    No, these claims make no sense. The first guy sounds like he was fired because he failed to capture the mood that Fox wanted(he sucked at his job). They have commentators on FNC that insult Reagan and his policies all the time. The second story makes even less sense. Juan Williams, Maura Liason and many others question those wars everyday on that network during prime time. They still have jobs. Seems like he was probably fired for some other reason, again he sucked at his job.

    you realize that video you posted implies FNC has a liberal bias? If it was a conservative bias it would of needed to be an unregulated market screwing people over. Instead of say the FDA screwing up and trying to hide it.
     

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