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Orlando police steal food from children, arrests 6 others for feeding the hungry

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by ToyCen428, Jun 19, 2011.

  1. rocketsjudoka

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    I really don't see why people are blaming the cops. They are just enforcing the law as its written. The law to me is the problem.
     
  2. tmoney1101

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  3. tmoney1101

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    Just doing their jobs, i'm sure they weren't happy about it either, but everyone's got to make a living.
     
  4. ElPigto

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    This.

    This law is stupid.
     
  5. Xerobull

    Xerobull ...and I'm all out of bubblegum

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    I'm impressed- The police should be commended. They hired every black guy in Orlando.
     
  6. BetterThanI

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    Here's a question: if these guys are so fired-up to feed the homeless, why not do it from one of the many homeless shelters or food banks in the city?

    http://www.homelessshelterdirectory.org/cgi-bin/id/opensearchfb.cgi?city=Orlando&state=FL

    http://www.homelessshelterdirectory.org/cgi-bin/id/city.cgi?city=Orlando&state=FL

    Or for that matter, why not find some nearby church from which they could serve? It seems to me they're doing this from a park not to actually help anyone, but to bring attention to themselves. Not such a selfless act.
     
  7. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    Homeless don't have cars. They don't have internet so they can't click on those links. Plus, a large number are mentally ill. Taking the food to them is the only way some of these people will eat.
     
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  10. BetterThanI

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    And the churches? Sorry, I'm not buying it. I've worked with multiple food banks (most recently, Capital Area Food Bank of Texas) and I've no doubt the people who work those shelters are extending every effort to feed the homeless. These folks seem to be more about getting headlines than actually feeding the homeless. For example, from the article:

    They were more concerned with defying the ordinance than actually helping people. If they were really concerned with helping the homeless, they would be working within the law to make sure they can continue helping people in the future, rather than intentionally provoking the powers that be.
     
  11. Major

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    Why? What if they think getting the public against the law will help it get changed, and that in turn will help the homeless more? You seem to have a very narrow vision of what helping people entails - homeless shelters and churches are great, but they clearly don't assist everyone, or you wouldn't have anyone hungry. These people aim to target a different group, and ultimately, they seem to need the law changed to effectively do it.

    There are lots of ways to help people. Just because their strategy doesn't fit your vision of what is best doesn't mean they don't care about the people they are helping.
     
  12. RKREBORN

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    Nope. That quote has nothing to do with the OP's topic.
     
  13. BetterThanI

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    Disagreeing with a law doesn't give a person the right to violate it. The law is there for reason, and has been upheld by an appellate court. If you lose in court, it doesn't make it okay to go ahead and break the law anyway.

    But that's just it: I don't see that they do. Seems to me they're breaking the law just to break it. In fact, they're website seems to indicate that they are anti-shelter and anti-food bank/soup kitchen. But, regardless: no one is saying they can't feed the homeless. No one is even saying they can't feed the homeless in the park. They're just saying that they can't feed the homeless in the park that often. To do so would turn the park into a defacto homeless shelter, and that's not what the park is for. The parks are there to:
    Having a park that is overrun with homeless people looking for handouts would not help achieve those goals.

    So you find another way to help them. You don't just break the law over and over again (which, by the way, probably isn't going to help improve relations between the homeless population and the police, the community, the courts, etc.).

    Let me rephrase: they obviously care about helping the homeless, but they seem to be more focused on making headlines and furthering a somewhat radical political agenda.
     
  14. imasonamagun

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    <iframe width="425" height="349" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/x5bVrHiPSzw" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> This Should Work.:grin:
     
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  15. mylilpony

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    yet they still can find the free ****.
     
  16. dharocks

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    Personally I think it's more important to follow your conscience than the letter of the law, but hey, I'm just weird like that.
     
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    laws are meant to reinforce it for those that DON'T have a conscience. Personally, there is way too much red tape, bull**** around for the law to coincide with whats best for the people.

    As a people WE are the ones agree to laws as a general compromise between extreme benefit and extreme loss. The fact is everyone would try to reap the most benefit they could out of someone, by cheating or anything because it would be the rational thing to do, most benefit, with the least sacrifice.

    However, we have no control over who does it to us, we could very well be on the receiving end of that deal, so we come to a compromise and choose that middle portion and develop laws to reinforce that.

    Sadly however, laws like these have no benefit, rules just to have rules.

    I don't give a **** about any sort of premise, the fact is homeless people, kids, and others are being fed. The end result is beneficiery to society as a whole and laws like this make no sense.
     
  18. fchowd0311

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    give a man a fish and you feed him for a day... teach a man how to fish and you feed for the rest of his life.

    Free handouts to the homeless(unless you are disabled) hinder society not benefit it.
     
  19. RKREBORN

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    You got it!!!!!!! :)
     
  20. Mr. Clutch

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    The city council is the problem, they passed the law.

    The voters are the problem, they voted for the councilmembers.
     

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