[Mike & Mike ESPN] Jon Barry Says Rockets Still Interested in Bosh

And Scola is a leader. Give them some vets. Miller/and i hate to say it..even Hayes. Maybe some draft picks. But being two deep with Lowry/Dragic and Martin/Lee is amazingly good. We NEED a 3, and a Healthy Center. Go after Gasol and we are contenders. Enough said.

- Look how deep the Grizz were at every position.... Hard to defend at almost every substitution. And with McHale AND CD coaching PatPat to be a low post player as well as Thabeet and Hill, Who says they cant be a force in the paint this year?

 

word, i agree. miller and scola would fit real well, lee and twill could fill up the 3 spot, center would have to be a FA acquisition

 

Just for my own knowledge, please cite an instance or two where a team has successfully traded two mid-to-low first rounders and role player into the TOP 7 of a draft. The only instance I know of this happening is that year we made Eddie Griffin our supposed forward of the future (RIP). Because I can't remember this being something that has happened "often"

I'm bringing their contracts up to cover a point that, at the end of the day, it's still 2 points and 1 rebound. Just because some want to believe that Bosh is an elite player, it doesn't mean that he is a MUCH GREATER upgrade than what we already have at power forward when cost is considered. And in this case, you want to trade our starting point guard, Scola, and the best young player we have for Bosh.

Wow. You are truly blind and ignorant if you think the Rockets can "contend for home court" with Bosh at the 4 and Chuck Hayes as our starting center with a Brad Miller coming off of microfracture surgery as his back up.

I'll let you consider that, if the Rockets ship out Lowry/Scola/Patterson for Bosh, he'd replicate his last year of production in Toronto. While it was darn good, I fail to see how it would catapult this team into "contending status" when you just made more holes in this team by adding Bosh. I'll even go ahead and agree with you just for kicks and say that players of Lowry, Scola, and Patterson's level are a dime a dozen. What you are continually failing to acknowledge is that while the Rockets NEED star players, they don't have a DIRE NEED for a star power forward. I realize you have to play what the assumed trade market gives you but that doesn't mean you HAVE to play in the market just because something shiny is there.

 

I lowballed the exact amount just so I didn't look like a "homer"

 

I think that Bosh earned himself some respect this season. Considering he doesn't handle the ball each and every play. Bosh still had very good all-star numbers. He proved that he was a big 3 level talent.

If the Rockets could swing a deal for him, I think that it would bring the super star that Morey has been craving for so long. But this would deplete the Rockets of depth and cause glaring holes in the line up. Obviously, any trade would involve significant pieces from the Rockets.

But the thing that is certain in my opinion, Morey has a knack for bringing in roster depth. I think Morey know this all too well, finding role players is his niche.

But sadly, I think that any trade involving Bosh would include Kyle Lowry - the Heat have a glaring hole at point guard.

So a Scola, Patterson, Lowry, and draft picks might be what the Heat are looking for.... I would not be surprised if the price were even steeper than that. This could have a multiple team trade possibility - in which case, even Kevin Martin might get involved in trade talks.

 

after crying frantically last night, he might be the first one to be let go...

 

Bosh clearly sacrificed the most on that Heat team and probably should have gotten far more touches than he should have

I still believe he is one of the top 15 players in the league and would trade scola for him though I would try to send other pieces besides Lowry - (patterson is fine) both lowry and scola are two hustle/tough/grit type guys who made themselves really easy to root for and those traits are what the heat are missing right now and i dont want to see both of my favorite players on the rockets go to that team - one i can probably handle but both?


send scola, miller (who retires - saves heat money which probably is needed if a hard cap is set), jordan hill and the #14 pick this year and a future first for Bosh

not sure if that all will work but just a thought.

 

I think it'd take both Scola and Lowry to make Miami think about trading Bosh. Pat Riley wants ready-made players and doesn't want to "develop" any draft picks and young guys. They dumped all the draft picks to CLE and TOR, and gave up Beasley, too, which essentially gave them the salary space to sign Mike Miller, I think.

I'd offer Miami both Scola and Lowry, plus some salary fillers. I'd hold on to the rest of the roster, including Patterson who can either back-up or play next to Bosh.

 

You can probably make an argument that sending Scola, a re-signed Dragic, Chase, Jordan Hill and some first rounders could probably work. Dragic would be a huge upgrade over Bibby and can split time with Chalmers.

 

Are we back on the Bosh banwagon?

 

Oh no doubt because his emotional and riveting performance in the Finals has led Jon Barry to think that the Miami Heat do not employ such sissies and that the Rockets, with an iPad2 this time, are still interested. And Jon Barry is the gospel.

 

Even if we ignore the fact that a Bosh-led team was and always will be a perennial loser:

Who the hell honestly thinks that the Heat + Scola and Lowry AREN'T going to win "not five or six or seven" championships?

So we're trading a young mediocre team for an older slightly better team with zero shot at winning a ring. Oh, and we'll have no cap room.

 

I would not put Lowry in a deal for Bosh, unless we have a subsequent deal for a new starting PG in place. I like Goran mucho, don't think he is quite there (yet). Maybe Miami would take Dragic (IMO better than Chalmers)

Bosh+Joel Anthony for Scola+Budinger+Miller+Dragic+#23. Miami gets a shooter (obviously needed) a veteran leader PF, a PG and pick #23, which they can use to select the BPA that fits with Wade and Lebron.

 

I gained a lot of respect for bosh in these playoffs!
The way he took the loss, and how he was pressuring the ball with less than a min left and down 9!

I'd still love to have him

 

I'm sure they are. What's changed? Did you guys expect him to put up the same numbers on a team with LeBron and Wade?

 

sadly i think this would be the case too but i wouldnt want to part with both since there is no guarantee that chuck hayes will be back. lowry and hayes really took over as leaders the 2nd half of the season and would like to keep them if possible.


personally though I do not see the heat trading bosh unless their hand is somewhat forced by the changes in the CBA


personally if i were the heat i'd trade lebron to new jersey for deron and brook lopez

 

I expected him to be more efficient since he's a superstar that nobody guards anymore. No more double teams and tons of wide open looks with space to operate results in the same shooting numbers? Imagine if KMart was wide open every touch and never had to create for himself.

Either he's soft mentally or his game has regressed, either way he's not a max player. And that's ignoring his defense.

 

I'd be surprised if Bosh would accept coming here. Even if he wants out of Miami (and there's no proof he does), he'd probably pout unless he got to choose his next team, and you can bet that Houston would be way down his list.

 

Why would Houston be way down the list? Houston's name came up plenty of times by reporters before the whole South Beach fiasco was discovered (Screamin A Smith of all people).

I would welcome Bosh here. He would fit in better. But I wouldnt give up Lowry at all. His value is too good contract-wise

 

PPat (with PT & lots of practice) will = CBosh, so don't need, especially if it means giving up several key players.