Dirk's response to Wade & LeBron's mockery of his sickness

Ignore the previous post, FORMATTING ERROR YEAH

The title of the article is "LeBron could cough up Finals." This is fresh off an 8pt finals performance, and if I recall correctly a 2pt 4th quarter in an otherwise okay performance. LeBron does have a history of not showing up when it matters, which Woj talks about to further explore the possibility of the article title.

LeBron has worked hard to erase this history with dazzling performances prior to the finals. Here is some recent "one-sided journalism that panders to what people want to read:"

http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/05/19/lebron-james-is-suddenly-looking-very-clutch/

http://www.slamonline.com/online/nba/2011/05/lebron-james-comes-up-clutch-once-again/

http://hangtime.blogs.nba.com/2011/05/20/statscube-is-lebron-now-mr-clutch/

http://articles.nydailynews.com/201..._lebron-james-amar-e-stoudemire-udonis-haslem

When they "celebrated" in game 2, they did so right before choking away one of the biggest leads in NBA finals history. When they made a "joke" at Dirk, it was directly after a loss in which he lit them up. When the Mavs "celebrate," they win. Dirk was even quoted as saying after game 5 that they can't celebrate yet, because they have to finish the job. And we've already discussed trash talk.

I'm seriously not sure how you still haven't seen the difference in character, and how you're still able to pin all of it on "media." Here's a thought: maybe the Heat really are douchebags?

 

Proving what point?

You have been the single poster with the most idiotic posts on this forum since these finals started.

Apparently you are a Clippers fan.

Enough said.

 

Maybe, but at least I don't have 20K posts on a message board. My god, get a life.

 

Is there even a Clippers message board with a total of 20k posts from all Clippers fans worldwide combined?

I guess not, that's why you have 2k posts on a Rockets message board.

How many do you have on the Lakers forums?

 

Not only did he call him a b****, at one point he pantomimed masturbation at him! Can you imagine the reaction if LEBRON dared that, & pointed it at Dirk? All talking heads & c.f. threads would be about how he has no respect for the game etc. Did someone say DOUBLE STANDARD?

 

Please don't resort to ad-hominem attacks on a message board--about how much someone posts on a message board--and ignore the argument now. I worked very hard to share those articles on LeBron's "clutchness" for you since you're so set on "biased media." And by "worked very hard" I mean I "typed 'LeBron clutch' into google." Also, it's "fun" to "quote things."

 

And vice versa clippy. And for the record, I (and many other adults) don't need the media to tell us what to think. I hated the Miami Heat the second LeBron said "South Beach". My mind was made up before the cameras even shifted away.

Secondly, I think media coverage of the Heat has been very favorable. If you watch espn or NBA.com highlights you get a clip of every singled steal, dunk, and jumper made by Wade or LeBron, then it's like oh yeah dirk made a shot and the mavs won. Coverage prior to game 1 was ALL Miami. All the positive press about mike miller (my heart goes out to his family btw). Even today, I have yet to go on NBA.com but I bet the majority of pics and headlines are about Miami.

You are very much entitled to your opinion, but please don't insinuate that I'm dumb or a sheep just because I disagree with you. I can see it frustrates you because you feel like there is a bandwagon against your favorite players, but just perhaps many feel as I do. They didn't need to hear or see anyone else's opinion of lebron before they made up their minds.

 

Look, my man, if you can't see that the media is treating Miami and Dallas differently, I don't know what to tell you. Maybe the axis of evil brought that on themselves with The Decision and all, but from the POV of looking for basketball info and not a soap opera, the media isn't really doing it's job.

No hard feelings, I'm sure you are "intelligent".

 

You don't know what to tell me because you have no argument. I know what to tell you--and will continue knowing what to tell you--because I have one, with evidence, facts, and good old fashioned logic. Tell me then, "my man," did you have a problem with those articles on LeBron becoming clutch? Or is the media not doing its job? I'm not sure how you can have a problem with Woj writing about LeBron's shortcomings if you don't have a problem with numerous other sources writing about LeBron's....clutchcomings?

 

They did bring it on themselves clippy. I have hope for thus debate now because that post shows a hint of rationalism. As for the media, they are doing exactly what reporters have always done. According to you, it is only their job to report what happens on the court?

If that were the case we wouldn't need them. With dvr technology I can see what happens between the lines myself. It has always been the job of reporters to report the behind the scenes activity and what not. If that bothers people, there is also technology called a remote. World Series, Super Bowl, and yes the NBA Finals, there are just as many off the field/court reports than game reports. Been that way long before Miami, and will be that way long after them.

 

Ok, I am getting very sleepy here so this will likely be my last post. I think we are losing site of the topic. This thread was about Wade & LeBron poking fun (mocking, parodying, whatever) Dirk's cough in one of the games. My point is simply that the media made a big deal of this only because it was the Heat, and they have this reputation of being the bad guys in this series (perhaps deserved, but certainly further propagated by media efforts). Had the Mavs done something similar, it wouldn't have even gotten press. I know this because, in this series, the Mavs HAVE done some douchey things and no one media figure has brought them up, eg the Shawn Marion "beating off" gesture, calling LeBron a "b****", premature celebrations, and others. Honestly, you think if LeBron did these things he wouldn't be crucified? I understand why the media isn't bothering-- because it's not what people want to see.

I will concede that some of you have made some good points and the I only really directed "mindless sheep" at Outlier, who has never made a good post on this forum. I do think that the anger towards LeBron and the Heat is a little ridiculous, though, and for almost any other player the topic of this thread would be overlooked because it's a pretty silly joke.

 

Ok clippy, so you are saying if Dirk limps into the arena laughing and holding his hip there will be NO media coverage? You will be able to hear reporters and camera men laughing hysterically off camera at dirk the comedian? And it will be a back page story tomorrow? That's what you are saying?

 

No, you do not understand. It's because the media looks at star vs. star. Whatever Marion or Terry did is something a complementary player did. But if you compare apples and apples, you compare Dirk vs. Wade/Lebron (not even Bosh). And the outcome of the comparison is obvious - one is handling himself with class, the other two are acting like entitled, arrogant, immature douchebags. And I am saying this based on what I have seen and heard with my own eyes, not based on anything "the media spoon feeds me", as you ridiculously keep asserting.

 

I don't know, I guess it depends on what he did. But have you actually seen the video that started this discussion? It's here: http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=6648806

Is this newsworthy? Do you really find it so offensive and worth generating hate towards these guys?

 

Yes, it is newsworthy, and while it is not worth generating "hate", it is enough to see them as the douchebags they are (especially in conjunction with other immature things they have done in the past, Lebron more so than Wade, but Wade was the bigger idiot here).

 

That is a fair point regarding the star power. But I don't really think they've done anything that bad here (see the video I linked above). I think people want to find reasons to believe these guys are douchebags because it justifies hating on them for THE DECISION, and the media is more than happy to help that along. If camera guys followed anyone around all day and picked out the douchey moments, I'm sure they'd have a field day too.

 

Ok, I guess we just have to agree to disagree here. I don't think this is newsworthy at all. I think it has nothing to do with basketball and isn't even remotely offensive. It is only being reported because it helps fuel an agenda, which is similar to every article Woj writes about the Heat.