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Dirk's response to Wade & LeBron's mockery of his sickness

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by Outlier, Jun 11, 2011.

  1. PeppermintCandy

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    James is probably taking a whole lot of trash-talking from Marion and Terry. Even the ABC play-by-play guy mentioned how Marion is continuously jawing in James's ear.

    It's just that Marion and Terry have been smart enough not to say it when the media's watching.
     
  2. gmoney411

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    Being a dick is bad enough but then being a dick and the getting mad and acting like you weren't when people call you on it is so much worse. If you want to be a showboat and a smartass at least admit that is what you are doing when people bring it up. There are plenty of jerks in the world that people like its just that they know they are being jerks and embrace it.
     
  3. AstroRocket

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    Posted in the game thread, but it feels more appropriate here. lol
     
  4. krouchchocolate

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    Who doesn't talk trash during a b-ball game? lol
     
  5. PeppermintCandy

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    um, that's my point.
     
  6. clippy

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    <iframe width="640" height="390" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/1IK4QLBnZP8" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

    The dumbass haters here don't even know they're being played.
     
  7. Outlier

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    And you doesn't know how to listen. You're set on one view, and that's "we're haters". At least I try to make it my point to see from the other side's eyes. Naive fool, you're the only dumbass here.
     
  8. cuddie

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    This actually helps prove my point, because I wasn't even aware of this graphic and I dislike the Heat. clippy is trying to assert that anyone and everyone who dislikes the Heat does so only because of the media. I disagree.

    Also, out of curiosity, when was this poll taken? Before the series started, after Game 1 or very recently with the Mavs up 3-2?
     
  9. clippy

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    The point of the graphic is to show that everyone hates the Heat (and I wouldn't be shocked if it was this way all season). But the reason for that is largely media-driven, because everything they've done is magnified by the media and placed in a negative light. I mean, seriously, look at this piece of "journalism":

    http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_y...ron_james_dwyane_wade_nba_finals_game6_061111

    And tell me that the media is promoting this stuff to make the Heat "evil" and the Mavs "good". It's not like the Mavs have been saints this series. There's a clip showing Marion calling LeBron a "b****" after a play, and Terry flying all over the court. You think if Wade or LeBron did these kinds of things there wouldn't be a public outcry?
     
  10. Outlier

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    Except that they do DO that crap (LeBron looking down at Stevenson/ Wade showboating after a big play... but I guess you wouldn't know these because you don't watch the games), and there hasn't been public outcry because it isn't that big of a deal. The other things they do often do warrant criticism, but your homer glasses refuse to see that.
     
  11. clippy

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    If LeBron got caught on film calling Dirk a "b****", I guarantee there would be at least ten topics about it and probably two Woj articles.
     
  12. Outlier

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    Exaggerate much? Dirk IS sometimes a b****, and many Rocket fans here hate the Mavericks. I personally would applaud LeBron if he did that, because it would mean he's starting a mean streak and playing with a fire compared to what he appears to be doing now (deer with headlights). Nothing would please me more if LeBron went off in the next few games because it would instantly make a classic game... well not nothing I suppose, I would still love to see them lose. I'm still counting on LeBron to go for 30 in one of these games.
     
  13. cuddie

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    Wait wait wait wait wait, hold on a second cowboy. Picking one team to win over another is concrete proof of your hatred for the team you didn't pick? Assuming the poll was taken after game 5, with the Mavs up 3-2, it's entirely logical to pick them over the Heat. Also, when asked before the series started who I had for the finals, my answer was always: "I dislike the Heat, I'm rooting for the Mavs, but I think the Heat will win."

    As for your unnecessarily quoted piece of journalism, I don't see anything wrong with it. Is LeBron not playing below expectations in these Finals? Did Wade not mock Dirk and then pathetically deny it? It actually doesn't matter if you agree with him or if it's biased, because it's a ******* opinion piece and, again, one that had no influence on my view toward the Heat because I hadn't even read it until now.

    As for the Heat being "evil," that's on them. You don't troll the public, you don't "take your talents to souf beach" on a TV special, you don't--actually I've listed most of this in my previous post--do this type of crap if you want to be the "good" team. They've actually embraced this role, flat-out said that they are aware of what they're doing and they don't care.

    And in regards to the Mavs' behavior, I haven't seen anything particularly damning. On court trash-talk is a part of the game, just ask anyone who's ever played basketball. Wade does it, LeBron does it, even Mike Miller does it and there hasn't been, to my knowledge, any public outcry in relation to trash talk. It's when they pound their chests and flab their mouths right before choking up historical leads that gets gets people talking, which is a far cry from "public outcry."
     
  14. clippy

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    I think that the team you are hoping will win is going to be a huge factor in who you vote to win (in an anonymous internet poll), sure. I'm sure a lot of people (well over 50%) have the Mavs winning game 6 too, yet the Vegas line on that is Heat -6. That is, if people had to put their money where their mouth is, this graph would look a little different. I don't know when it was taken but I think it could be at almost any point during this series.

    Of course you don't see anything wrong with it.. you want the Heat to lose! My point is that this is one-sided journalism that panders to what people want to read. Anyone can pick and choose moments to make a player look bad. In this article, Woj asserts that LeBron has a history of never showing up when it matters (going all the way back the Olympics), yet even as recently as the last two series he was the most clutch 4th quarter player in the entire league! Where is that mentioned?

    I'm not saying that any particular piece of media is influencing you-- these only get so many hits. It's more that the collective theme of everything is to paint a certain picture, and that's where the attitude is derived. "The Decision" was bad, but what really fueled the hat was what the media made of it, inevitable in this age of 24/7 "live in the moment" Twitter era.

    I don't have a problem with it either, but you are kidding yourself if you think the Mavs and Heat are being treated the same by allegedly unbiased media members in regards to their behavior. When LBJ and Wade "celebrated" in game 2, the media jumped all over them. When they made a joke at Dirk they were crucified. Yet when the Mavs celebrate or trash talk.. nary a peep. Because that's what the public wants.
     
  15. AroundTheWorld

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    No, because their stars are showboaters and douchebags, whereas Dirk is a class act. Stop trying to portray it as "they are doing the same thing and the poor Heat are a victim of the media". They are not acting the same - Wade and Lebron are acting like immature idiots, whereas Dirk is not. It is easy to see why more people who are not normally fans of either team would root for Dirk, even though he is a foreigner and Wade and Lebron are Americans.

    One thing I have to say is that I haven't seen Bosh act the same ridiculous way Lebron and Wade are acting.
     
  16. cuddie

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    When they "celebrated" in game 2, they did so right before choking away one of the biggest leads in NBA finals history. When they made a "joke" at Dirk, it was directly after a loss in which he lit them up. When the Mavs "celebrate," they win. Dirk was even quoted as saying after game 5 that they can't celebrate yet, because they have to finish the job. And we've already discussed trash talk.

    I'm seriously not sure how you still haven't seen the difference in character, and how you're still able to pin all of it on "media." Here's a thought: maybe the Heat really are douchebags?
     
  17. clippy

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    OMG, thanks for proving my point. You don't know anything about LeBron, Wade, or Dirk. Up until this series, in fact, Wade has always been painted as a class-act (a bit of a flopper but it's not like Dirk doesn't have a history of that). Dirk could be a complete POS in real life for all we know.
     
  18. clippy

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    Maybe they are. Maybe the Mavs are. We have no way of really knowing because the media is only showing us what we want to see.

    I do find it somewhat amusing that no one is really picking on Jason Terry anymore when he is pretty much known around the league to be one of the bigger jerks.
     
  19. Outlier

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    Nope, they're each a "class-act".:rolleyes:
     
  20. Outlier

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    No one is picking on Jason Terry? Are you serious? There was one thread recently with every poster bashing on Terry. He deserved the bashing. So do LeBron and Wade.
     

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