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NBA Finals: Dallas Mavericks vs. Miami Heat

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by Carl Herrera, May 25, 2011.

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What do you expect to be the result

  1. Dallas in 4

    6 vote(s)
    1.6%
  2. Dallas in 5

    12 vote(s)
    3.2%
  3. Dallas in 6

    113 vote(s)
    30.5%
  4. Dallas in 7

    43 vote(s)
    11.6%
  5. Miami in 4

    10 vote(s)
    2.7%
  6. Miami in 5

    40 vote(s)
    10.8%
  7. Miami in 6

    115 vote(s)
    31.1%
  8. Miami in 7

    31 vote(s)
    8.4%
  1. Air Langhi

    Air Langhi Contributing Member

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    Lerbon had 29-18-10 and people said he quit. He average 35-8-8 and people said he quit. He didn't play well the last few games, but he will criticized no matter what he does. Even if he wins the ship people will say he rode wade's coat tails.Even if he wins and avg 50 pts people will say well he was supposed to do that. I don't think he can win.
     
  2. t_mac1

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    i don't live in houston or care for houston so i could care less. but i do have friends who are dirk's friends, and know i'm a rockets fan so they will destroy me on this. and they already have as the texts keep coming tonight telling me how god-like dirk is.

    i really only hate dallas from what happened in 05, and jason terry/mark cuban. and if dallas wins the finals, i expect mark cuban to go all out and spend some more to win again next year.
     
  3. roxallways

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    Ugh!:mad: This a-hole is main reason why I'm rooting against the Mavs. If he wasn't on the team I may even be rooting for them to finally get a championship. Oh well....
     
  4. flamingdts

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    LOL are you seriously saying my reading comprehension is bad? Do you want me to go back and show you countless threads (including this one, which I will go into in a bit) where your horrible typing and reading comprehension became the epitome of a redundant argument?

    The point of this argument is that 17/10/10 is not some significant stat (which you repeatedly emphasized it is, here is evidence)

    I pointed out that its not. Then for some insecure reason, you go PMS.

    My point is the triple double was not significant, so what is your point besides having bad reading comprehension?

    And stop acting like I care if you put me on ignore, the world doesn't revolve around you. That's a Lebron James syndrome.

    And as usual, like Lebron James so far in the finals, when the pressure is on and the points start becoming harder to refute, you disappear.
     
  5. t_mac1

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    that is not true. before the finals, there were comparisons of lebron to michael jordan. if lebron plays to his capabilities and his team wins, he will get all the success.

    it's when he plays like he's kevin durant or the old dirk that people criticize him.

    lebron deserves all the criticisms thrown his way after his performances in the last 3 games. i have never seen the best player pull disappearing acts in the clutch like he has in the finals. it was disgusting to watch.
     
  6. JoeBarelyCares

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    So far, this series is following the script of the Rockets' first title in 1994. Now if only Terry goes 2-18 in game six, Miami's got this.
     
  7. Scarface281

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    Did you watch the Celtics and Chicago games?
     
  9. Mr. Space City

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    lebron james is mentally weak
     
  10. t_mac1

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    1) how did you not read the last part of that sentence that says 3 non-clutch plays turned his game into a pathetic game? seriously. it was clearly stated that lebron played a pathetic game.

    2) a triple double IS significant stat. and lebron's triple double WAS significant before he choked. he had 17, 10, 10 with 5 minutes left to play. if he continued that production, his game would continue to be great. but he STOPPED producing. so his great game started to become a pathetic game.
     
  11. Icehouse

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    Just left the arena. Great game!! The Dallas crowd was really into it, even the suits.
     
  12. bloop

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    It is arbitrary but significant.

    For a example a 9-9-9 or a 11-11-11 are all arbitrary statistical accomplishments but they all indicate performance at a high level within a game.

    9-9-9 10-10-10 or 11-11-11 indicates good contribution in all facets of the offense. It's also statistically significant (triple doubles are not routine) as they indicate a significantly higher better level of play than is average

    whether 35-15-7 or 19-10-10 is better depends on whether you won the game. what role you have on the team and composition in conjunction with other stats. if you went 19 on 4 of 6 3s and some FTs that's better than 35 points on 25 shots.

    That's what the talking heads say on ESPN but that's not the issue. For example Lebron played well in international competitions alongside Wade, Melo and others.

    He's just not shooting well. He kept his team in the game in the 4th quarter with a bunch of assists and great defense. If you include the shot he altered on Marion, assists and points he was responsible for a 12 point swing. He just missed some 3s and jumpers that negated that swing.

    His head is just not in it. Too much pressure and hate on him. He along with the other superfriends have been strong all year showing solidarity and playing with the pressure but it seems too much for him at this point.

    Heat still gonna win. And Stern will laugh all the way to the bank with the highest rating in years and his introduction of the NWO of his POS league being a huge success with Lebron in the villain role. What a farce, I wish I could warn the new fans in China or Poland or w/e what a POS Stern and the NBA actually are.

    Hating or bandwagoning on these Miami assholes is equally stupid. But it's sad to see a talent crumble in the Finals. It was like that with a lot of dudes Jordan played against like Malone. The pressure, particularly the media pressure saying how unbeatable Jordan was, was too much for guys to handle. Lebron is just crumbling atm. But win the Finals and no one will remember or care in a couple years.
     
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  14. Octavianus

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    If Miami doesn't win the next 2 games, it's all on Lebron, and a lot of questions will be asked, as they should.
     
  15. t_mac1

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    ^ great point bloop. lebron's J is simply missing. and he has to take those Js b/c the mavs' defense are simply cutting off all lanes on lebron. he better puts time in the gym and regain that stroke. he makes some jumpers, and the game will open up for him significantly.
     
  16. Scarface281

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    LeBron took good shots, he just didn't make them. It's all mental. Terry owned him though....badly.
     
  17. flamingdts

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    Oh my goodness. You are so misguided.

    I stated that his triple double is not a significant stat, because I agree he was pathetic.

    You on the other hand, decided to go PMS and go on about what my point is. My point is clear, the triple double wasn't a significant stat.

    During your PMS, you also said "I already said he had a pathetic game" and I assumed you meant the whole game because you didn't specifically say last 5mins, and I pointed out that you said he had a great game until the last 5 mins.

    I don't think James had a great game at all, he was passive. You never said he had a pathetic game for the last 5 mins in your previous post, you said he had a pathetic game, implying the whole game.

    So it's not my reading comprehension that's the problem, its your inability to coherently present a point.
     
  18. t_mac1

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    exactly. i thought lebron just choked tonight point blank.

    the 2 jumpers he took were in rhythm, and great looks. he missed them.

    and yes, terry owned him the past 2 games; lebron needs to start shutting him down again.
     
  19. t_mac1

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    1) you said his triple double wasn't a significant stat b/c you started bringing up comparing if a player gets 9/9/9 or 10/10/10. that's a terrible argument to make. his triple double WAS significant, his choking was not. without his triple double, the heat wouldn't be in the game as he gave bosh/miller/chalmers a ton of open looks. his game was pathetic b/c he choked down the stretch.

    2) i did'nt say the last 5 minutes? i said the last 3 plays for lebron (his miss J over kidd, his charging call, and his missed 3pt shot). if you saw the game, you would know that happened in the last 5 minutes of the game. do you want me to write out a play-by-play in my post?

    3) i disagree with your last 2 sentences again. lebron played a great game as a facilitator, taking the double/triple teams and killing them with great passes. his passing was the primary reason why miami shot so well. when wade was out, lebron found his 3pt shooters and bosh several times to keep pace with dallas to start the 3rd. and his 4 assists in the first 6 minutes of the 4th were also huge. but he STOPPED producing down the stretch.
     
  20. ArtisGilmore

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    Do you understand how distasteful and hated the Heat are if they drive ROCKETS fans to celebrate Jason Terry, Dirk Nowitzki, and the Mavs?

    Why are you such a Heat fanboy anyway? What does someone from Sacramento get in supporting the Heat? It makes absolutely no sense since the Heat and what they represent are the bane of small market teams.
     

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