Rubio vs Jimmer, who will have more success in the NBA?

jimmer....easy.

jimmer has above average passing and court vision.

 

Rubio is nothing but hype.

Thats all

His agent and the NBA have milked it for all its worth

Jimmer on the other hand will probably have a decent NBA career a.d brings more to the table than a JJ Redick

But Rubio is just a product of the international hype machine

 

I'm not saying Jimmer and J.J. are similar, but if comparing, even to point out the differences, one should also note that J.J. played in the ACC, which is the better league. Moreover, the way worse FG% is very overstated. Curry had the best FG% year of any of them his sophmore season, but JJ's senior year %'s of 47% overall and 42% from 3 point is better than anything Jimmer put up. One the whole, JJ scored more points per shot.

All that aside, as I don't really care about that specific comparison, or JJ, or Jimmer... the big issue is TRUE PG skills, right? Because Curry clearly has them. JJ clearly doesn't, but has the size at least to be a 6th-8th man type SG off the bench. Does Jimmer have PG skills? That, I don't have the answer to. His assist-turnover ration struggled his senior year, but then he became such a focal point for that team, and he was pretty solid in that category overall throughout college. I know he was a capable PG on the college level, but don't see him having quite Curry's footspeed or ballhandling abilities - though close. And if he jsut that little bit too slow, he is simultaneously not tall enough to give consistently solid minutes at the SG?

I have no idea what to think of Jimmer. Hard seeing him making a Stephen Curry type impact, but could he be a solid NBA player for a long time? I think so.

Rubio... who cares?

 

I was using the comparison to say that Rubio might flame out in a similar fashion as VSpan. TBH I really liked Spanoulis's athleticism and aggressiveness, and under a different coach he probably could've at least been as effective as Barea was and possibly as good as a smaller Ginobili with worse shooting. Ultimately the problem with Spanoulis was his mentality going from a superstar in Europe to a benchwarmer in the US; add in his initial struggles under inconsistent minutes and what seemed to be a relative cold relationship between him and his teammates, I'm not surprised he left. Rubio has similar maturity issues (apparent during his holdout and diva mentality in dictating his desired team list), and I could very well see the same thing happening to him if he doesn't adjust well immediately (and he wont).

 

I think the real question is how he'll adjust to being a role player. He was the absolute focal point of BYU, and he was pretty much given as many shots as he wanted. If he's coming off the bench to shoot 5-7 times in a game, is he going to able to keep the same kind of scoring prowess? He seems to me to be a pure rhythm shooter who needs to hold on to the ball and shoot himself out of slumps.

Jimmer could be great value in the lower first round. Probably too much a risk to bust or be a mediocre role player (worse ben gordon?) to take lottery.

 

Spanoulis is actually a better shooter than Manu. Rockets fans just have a totally skewed impression of Spanoulis from limited playing time. You want a comparison for Rubio and Spanoulis? I will give you a good one.

Do you remember how Spanoulis' mom was in a mental ward because she was suicidal and she called the Rockets and asked them to release Spanoulis so he could take care of her? And that when the Spurs asked him to stay he told them he had to leave because he had to take care of his mother?

Well..........the Sacramento Kings were put off by Rubio when they met him. When they met with Rubio, his mom came along. Rubio ordered a steak dinner at the restaurant they were meeting at. When Rubio's steak dinner came, he handed to his mother.

Ricky's mother then proceeded to cut up Ricky's steak into little pieces for him. She then passed his plate back to him. The Kings managers were reportedly shocked at this and other such bizarre behaviors that Rubio displayed when he met with them.

 

Lolz at the Rubio story. If true, that's some weird weird mother-son relationship going on at the age of 19.

But I can't find the reference to the Spanoulis bit, unless you're talking about the board post here: http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=133523
Seems like a lot of rumors and speculation. It's hard to believe that JVG was that big of a dbag and that Span was a complete victim in this scenario. Can't say I buy it.

 

Really like the comparison to Telfair.
Big hype because of some flashy passes, but not shinin on athleticsm or shooting.
Jimmer is the next Terry though, more suiting.

 

In the words of public enemy, don't believe the hype! wheeeea.

Rubio is going to be a solid starter one day. Unfortunately for him, he is going to be playing in minny*. No offense to greatest coach and GM of all time, Mchale, but that organization is poorly run.

The jimmer will be in a better situation.



*If he is not traded.

 

Best case scenario for Rubio- Electric point guard who can set anyone up

worst case- dependable 6th or 7th man

best case for Jimmer- fringe starter, starts on some teams, but I think on most he'd be a spark plug guy from the bench.

worst case-bust who only jacks up threes.

Gotta go with Rubio.

 

I see Jimmer being similar to Redick and don't expect much out of him. He might be a little more creative off the dribble than Redick, but his foot speed is nothing special. He will have trouble getting off his shot. He won't make the rotation of a good team for several years, if he ever does. On a bad team, he might get some serious minutes.

The subject of Ricky Rubio has been beaten to death. He'll end up somewhere between a complete bust or an average starting PG. It will take him a while to develop and I don't expect him to set the world on fire his first couple of years.

conquistador#11, you and others will make excuses for Rubio every step of the way. High drafts picks are selected by bad teams. That's just the way it is. If Rubio is worth a dime, he'll do very well anyway.

 

Spanoulis FLOPPED IN THE NBA. Get over it. He stunk it up. Then he quit. Give Rubio a chance to do the same. Manu > than Quittus Spanoulis

 

I don't know if he has the mental make up to make it through that, playing with the wolves I mean. Which is why I said he will find his place later in his career, like a chauncy billups.

 

Chauncey Billups early-career problem was himself, not his situations. Same for Rubio if he fails. Very few guys recover like Billups and there is no reason to think Rubio will follow that very unique path.

I think Rubio will struggle mightily for a few years because of the speed and 82-game schedule of the NBA. Hopefully he improves and makes himself into a serviceable NBA starter.