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Is this Miami team the most dominant in playoff history?

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by noize, Jun 2, 2011.

  1. BleedRocketsRed

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    Oh '09. My bad.

    Rockets gave them a run that year but Yao going down joining Deke on the IR really hurt.
     
  2. BleedRocketsRed

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    I wouldn't call the j*zz or Duggets cupcakes but that is just my opinion.

    And the Magic decked Boston and LeBron that year.
     
  3. noize

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    I don't think confidence will be an issue for the Heat. Just ask the Bulls. Its a matter of getting complecent when they up big. They know they will win, its just a matter of "how should we win this" opposed to "how will we win this"..

     
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    The fact that a crippled Rockets team took those Lakers to 7 shows just how pathetic the league was that year.
     
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    How can anyone say that they were more dominate than the 83 76ers and 01 Lakers that only lost one game. The Heat have already quadrupled that number. They haven't even swept a single series. You can't be the most dominant team in playoff history with no sweeps on your resume.
     
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    Awesome timing.

    Dude. Sweet. Where's my car?
     
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    That's not really proof. They just weren't trying that hard against us. When it came to a must win game 7 we got blown out.
     
  8. BleedRocketsRed

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    Agreed. They DOMINATED us in game 7.
     
  9. clippy

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    Well, it depends also on who you face. I think had the Celtics won last year they would have had an argument for being one of the most dominant teams since they would have beated the top three teams (Cavs, Lakers, and Magic) in route to the title. This year the Heat have gone through the 1st and 4th best teams (themselves being #3) and the way the Mavs are playing, they are arguably even better than either the Celtics or Bulls. So if they finished the Mavs in 5, that would be a pretty epic run. Hard to see them winning all three in Dallas though (but not unprecedented as the '91 Bulls and '01 Lakers did the same thing after going 1-1 at home... maybe the pattern will continue in '11).
     
  10. clippy

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    Yeah, but they had their 6th man Joey "loves2suck24" Crawford in the lineup.
     
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    i don't respect their opponents from the first 3 rounds that much. 76ers were a very young team with a losing record, the celtics would have probably won more than one if Rondo didn't get hurt, and the Bulls hadn't looked that impressive in the first two rounds. When you factor in that they won a lot of close games against the Bulls and Celtics that could have gone either way it is hard for me to say they have been dominating like no other team has. I haven't finished watching too many Heat games this year thinking the other team had no chance.
     
  12. clippy

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    Well, the bottom line is that the Celtics & Bulls were two of the best teams in the NBA and had no excuse not to be playing well (the Rondo thing is moot considering that he was fine for the first two games). The majority of fans seemed to be picking them to beat the Heat and, although you are correct that the spreads weren't that big, they did both get beaten 4-1 which is just not competitive. Given how well the Mavs have been playing (I mean sweeping the Lakers, GTFO!), if the Heat do beat them in the same fashion, that's pretty impressive.

    IMO, though, the Heat are still way, way underperforming considering their talent. I think they need to bring in a better offensive coordinator stat. Can you imagine what a guy like Nelson or D'Antoni would do with the athletes on this team? Defense first is a good rule of thumb if you have mediocre talent, but when you have the two best offensive players in the NBA... sheesh, you have to use that.
     
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    I would agree with the Rondo thing if they didn't win game 3 with him healthy. The old rule is that a series doesn't really start until a team loses at home.

    I agree the Heat have ridiculous potential that they haven't reached yet. I just hope stern puts in that hard cap he mentioned where they might have to cut loose Bosh
     
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    Can't blame the refs in a 40 point blowout. Maybe they had something to do with it but Rockets were clearly outmatched. Lakers size was too much, Gasol/Bynum or Odom were just playing volleyball out there.

    That was sad since the Rockets really did fight hard in that series. And I did lose alot of money from that series on many bets I made prior to it starting.



    As far as the Heat's competition goes. Celtics were done the day they traded away Perkins (no idea what EDIT: AINGE was thinking there) and Bulls were too inexperienced/lacking the offensive weapons. As somebody else pointed out, the Bulls did not look good in their first two rounds.
     
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    Yeah, I agree that the Rockets had no business even being in a game 7 and it was the Lakers complacency that got it that far. Also, Fisher getting suspended for game #3 was a great play by Jackson since he was getting eaten alive by Brooks & Lowery.

    That said, whenever Joey "LakerDickRider" Crawford is in the lineup @Staples, you know that they have that extra boost of confidence to get them through the game. I believe they are undefeated in the playoffs with him there.

    I don't see how you'd lose bets assuming you were going for the Rockets. Pretty much everyone had it as a sweep or five games max and they put up a good show.

    That may be true, but still most people were picking those teams to beat the Heat prior to the series. At the very least they were thinking long series. The Heat def. stepped up their game in the playoffs and as much as people want to hate on them, the results speak for themselves.
     
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    Perkins wasn't a bad trade by Boston, unless you're playing an LA or Orlando with dominant low post players, he's detrimental as his quality defense extends only that far, but any sort of stretch player (like say a Bosh or Dirk) will kill him, as will someone like a Chandler (whose job is pretty much just to rebound and dunk/layin)
     
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    He doesn't rebound or box out all that well, he can't defend the p+r well, and he's not a good scorer. So basically every other team in the conference finals this year would exploit Perkins.
     
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    I am sure Miami will be considered the most dominant ball club in basketball history after choking the title away this year.
     
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    I don't know much about history, but this Heat team isn't even the best team it could be yet. They've got the stars and a decent group of role players, but they lack chemistry and familiarity after only playing together for one season.

    It's scary to think, but this team could be even better in the coming years, as long as their stars (and especially Wade's shoulder) remain healthy.
     
  20. Aleron

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    The 83 sixers swept Showtime (we're talking one of the greatest teams of all time, with a still near prime kareem and 5th year magic) without a game coming within 2 baskets, losing their only game when 3-0 up in an earlier round.
     

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