I keep reading you people say Rubio is still overrated, overhype, but aside from the attention he got as a high potential, very young pg prodigy, when he was drafted, whom exactly has been rating Rubio so highly in the past year or two? Everyone on this board except for joptmc seems to think Rubio will be as horrible as hes apparently been in the Euroleague (according to some posters). Aside from his impressive showing in the olympics against the USA YEARS ago as an 18 year old, I havent seen anything else from RUbio. (and we all know good pg showings in those games dont translate to the NBA... looking at you Aroyo and Vspan) Anyway for the sake of the NBA and as a bball fan, I hope Rubio reaches his potential to be a great passing pg and is successful in the NBA... and for that matter, same hope for Jimmer also!
Juan Carlos Navarro -> 1.92 meters official measurement http://www.fcbarcelona.cat/web/english/basquet/temporada_08-09/plantilla/jugadors/Navarro.html Ricky Rubio -> 1.89 meters barefoot official measurement http://www.fcbarcelona.cat/web/english/basquet/temporada_10-11/plantilla/jugadors/ricky.html Barcelona measured Rubio at age 19, not age 16.
If you see Rubio playing for Joventut of Badalona, I tell you that that kid really looked like a promising talent. ... You can prove a thing: watch his highlights while he was in Badalona, and then the highlights with FC Barcelona, and then you tell me which are better.
When he played in Joventut he was generally playing against weaker competition. Not being a really serious ACB team and only being thought of seriously in Eurocup. In Euroleague they were a scrub team. And the teammates he had were much worse, so he had no competition within his own team. The best player on Joventut was Rudy Fernandez. Rudy Fernandez would just be another role player on Barca. The reason Rubio's effectiveness dropped was because he started playing at a much higher level. His production and effectiveness should definitely increase with the Wolves. Because the defense in NBA regular season is much lower than defense in the NBA and he will have limited competition for playing time on the Wolves. Just Ridnour basically, so he won't have much pressure.By joining the Wolves, he is going to a much lower level of basketball than what he used to at Barca. However, with that being said, he still is a bad player at this point in time.
They measure them w/o shoes; and Navarro has been at 1'91 for years, something that has always been questioned by everybody (fans, rivals, media...). It wouldn't be the first case and won't be the last one. Anyway, I told you already that they look more alike than I thought at some images.
Navarro is 192. Official FIBA measurements. http://www.sports-reference.com/olympics/athletes/na/juan-carlos-navarro-1.html Height: 6'4" (192 cm) Weight: 198 lbs (90 kg)
... NO. "Not being a really serious ACB team..."? 2006/07: 3rd spot at the Regular season. Lost 3-2 against Real Madrid at the semifinals. 2007/08: 2nd spot at the RS. Lost the Semis against Barcelona. Classified for the next years Eurolegaue. That year they also won the ULEB cup and the Spanish King's cup. ----> That's a pretty bad team. 2008/09: 5th spot and eliminated at the quartefinals. He barely played Euroleague because a wrist injury. Admit it, you probably didn't know about Ricky until 2008 or 2009. And please, don't insist with Navarro's measurements. A player is not measured at every event. Normally they take what they see at the team websites, like you did.
First of all, Navarro is taller than Rubio, from pics and official listings. Secondly, Joventut was never a serious ACB team. They never were comparable to Barca, Real, Baskonia. Your posts here are starting to sound like the ones where you keep claiming that Llull plays point guard.
No. OHMSS manipulating comments? Can't believe it. What I claim about Llull is that he has been a PG all his life until these last 2 years in which he has combined both guard positions (but being the SG his main position). That's a fact, like it or not. Like a fact is that Joventut was a very good team while Ricky was playing for them. With Rudy, with Jagla, with Bennett and then Mallet... with coach Reneses. http://www.acb.com/resulcla.php?codigo=LACB-51&jornada=34&resultados=1 http://www.acb.com/resulcla.php?codigo=LACB-52&jornada=34&resultados=1 http://www.acb.com/resulcla.php?codigo=LACB-53&jornada=34&resultados=1 If you don't know about something, next time better keep quiet.
What makes you think Love is an exception? I've never seen him put up anything but "empty" stats on a horrible team.
Llull is a shooting guard, not a point guard. In his entire pro career at the senior level he is a shooting guard. Every coach he has had in his senior career, both in ACB and the national team says he cannot be used as a point guard, unless an injury forces it. All Llull ever does is shoot and drive. He is not in any way, shape, nor form anything resembling a point guard. Joventut was never ever a serious contender in the ACB or Euroleague when Rubio played there. At their absolute peak, they might have been a top 15 team in Europe, and that is being extremely generous on my part. If you actually had seen an ACB game, you would already know all of this.
I told you once, don't invent false quotes. False, what actually happens is that you didn't know him until he was drafted by the Rockets. He was a PG in Manresa, and his first years in Madrid. You didn't know him by then. Like you didn't know Ricky until he started to appear on the media. And I already knew them because they are from Spain. That's normal. Like the fact that you sure knew about Calathes, Sofo, etc. before than me. The difference is that I don't try to act like I know all about them and everything about everything, you're ridiculous. And yep, Juventut was a very good team, like it or not. And Ricky was a great player for them, a crucial part of that team. Competing against the same players and at the same league in which he has played that bad this year. And that's my last post addressed to you. More than enough. Wish you well.
Anchel please............ Are you actually telling me that playing at Manresa and Joventut means anything? Manresa? Wow, Llull was the primary ball handler, not point guard, but primary ball handler of might Manresa. And he is also the primary ball handler in Real. He was not even a point guard in Manresa, he was the primary ball handler. Besides that, nothing he did at Manresa means anything. Let me put it like this...........Sloukas did great in Eurocup with Aris. Sloukas has been tearing up the A1 with Aris. Sloukas was awesome always with the junior national team, are you going to say that this means anything if he is put back on Olympiacos roster next year? Rudy Fernandez was the everything when he was in Joventut, but if he had been on teams from that same time like CSKA or Panathinaikos he would just been another role player on the team. It's real easy to claim stuff to Americans because they don't know that Joventut can be in the same league as Barca, but is a much lower level. Because in America the levels are just by league, not like in Europe where it is by league and MOSTLY of all by team. Like playing for Manresa is in the ACB, but it might as well be semi-pro compared to playing in Real. Americans don't understand that, so it is real easy for you to trick them here. But not me.
Rubio is left unguarded and wide open in every single game in Europe and still shoots around 30% from the field and around 20% from 3. His team plays 4 on 5 on offense whenever he is in the game. He is treated by the opposing defenses in Europe the same exact way that Ben Wallace is treated by the opposing defenses in the NBA. He is right now a poor man's version of Rafer Alston. As far as I know, you hated Rafer Alston more than any other Rockets fan. So now you say that the same exact player as Alston (only a worse version of him) is going to be great in the NBA and you wish he would be on the Rockets. Now that is being seriously hypocritical.
that would be a MAJOR understatement. OHMSS, I dont give a damn what you think of anyone, Im getting tired of seeing every other post of yours insulting others. It will cease or you will find yourself inventing yet ANOTHER new account for these guys to use as a punching bag.
