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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by RoxSqaud, May 30, 2011.

  1. RoxSqaud

    RoxSqaud Member

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    Will probably end up in the D&D...

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    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/27/brandon-ross-charged-with_n_868289.html

     
  2. tamericus

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    I don't get why he's charged with murder.

    Sounds kind of silly. :confused:
     
  3. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    Did you read the article?

    "Under state law, police can charge someone with murder when an accomplice is killed during the commission of a crime"
     
  4. Royals Ego

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    I don't understand:
    "They could have taken him to jail, they could have done anything but taken his life," Williams' mother told the Tribune Thursday.

    Yea the mother's hurting, she just lost her criminal adolescent son, but that statement is so dumb, her kid pointed a gun at a cop, it's game over right there, either kill or be killed.

    I think they're throwing the most severe charges at the kid though, it'll probably be downgraded.
     
  5. tamericus

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    I read it, but didn't understand why that's the case.
     
  6. RoxSqaud

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    The article never said he pointed the gun....just said that was the one holding the gun...and turned her way.
     
  7. Royals Ego

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    then in hindsight, he should have
     
  8. LongTimeFan

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    Hard to judge from the story. I'd need to know more details about the situation, but tragic nonetheless.
     
  9. Pete Chilcutt

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    I applaud the police officer.

    No way you take any chances with low lives like those crooks. Starting at such a young age, no one knows what else the kid might have done if he got away.

    Get a job, stop stealing other peoples hard earned money/possessions.
     
  10. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    The intent of the law is to deter crime, especially crimes committed with weapons. Chances tend to be less of getting shot by a police office or someone else if a weapon is not involved.
     
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    Murder means unlawful killing with intent, right? Murder wasn't committed by anyone involved.
     
  12. JayZ750

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    Definitionally, maybe. But legally clearly not.
     
  13. Air Langhi

    Air Langhi Contributing Member

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    I am not excusing them, but I am not going to judge someone without walking a mile in their shoes. Usually poverty and crime go hand in hand.
     
  14. RoxSqaud

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    Troubled kids?

    Shoot em.:rolleyes:
     
  15. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    Unfortunately, if the story is accurate, the officer did not have much of a choice.
     
  16. Pete Chilcutt

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    I agree completely, but many of these people are kids. They can get jobs and do something positive.

    My parents came to this country with nothing, not even their family for financial support and made a living for themselves.

    It starts from the parents I guess. There is no sense of learning or positive culture in some of these families and I understand that some kids feel like that stealing is their only resort, but some of these kids do it and do not care who they hurt.
     
  17. Pete Chilcutt

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    Troubled kid that pointed a gun at another person. Troubled kid that probably had a "Eff the POlice attitude"

    Some kids do not care about the consequences and could lead to innocent people getting hurt or killed.
     
  18. RoxSqaud

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    If he actually pointed the gun at her, yeah, you're right.

    but this is what is says...


    Nobody knows what happened but the ones that were there....but I don't think his intent was to kill the cop...or that he even aimed the gun.

    I'm not taking the kid's side...obviously he was a little criminal on the path to prison soon enough...but I think the cop could have handled it better...shoot and kill should be the last option.

    ...unless he aimed his gun...then yeah...no choice but to shoot.
     
  19. moestavern19

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    I'm having a hard time seeing how the punishment fits the crime.

    If he would have robbed the guy alone and gotten caught, he'd be looking at a much lighter sentence, but because his partner stupidly got himself killed by the police he has to pay the price with the rest of his life?

    American justice for you.
     
  20. Air Langhi

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    Again as is stated the UE rate is close 50% for black kids in Illinois.

    Usually the folks that emigrate have work ethic, intelligence or something that allows them to get out of their country. The rest of the 95% of the folks are stuck doing same old ****. The thing is this kid's parent is one of the 95% not the 5% that gets out.

    Ihttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harlem_Children%27s_Zone

    60 Minutes did a show about this. When you take the kid out of the environment they do a lot better.
     

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