tip jar bet: i guarantee kmac's Rockets will win more than Adelman's did last year

yeah if that happens lets make sure no one from this bbs has any input or we are screwed for sure.

 

I would like to know why everyone keeps calling him a HOF coach when he has not been elected to the HOF. On these boards people just throw it out, after it was published in a Houston Chronicle article.... I don't even know what value it holds, Lenny Wilkens is a HOF coach too...
If you want to get technical, the Rockets now have a HOF coach...

 

yep, mchale is a TRUE hall of famer.

mchale = 3 rings
adelman = 0 rings

nuff said

 

I get what you are saying but he is a guy who should be in the HOF.

I think like Larry Brown, if Adelman can get one championship, he will get into the hall the ballot immediately after.

He is a guy who has fielded great teams in Portland/Sacramento/Houston, a winning percentage in the 60s in 20 years of head coaching (in terms of NBA coaches with 10 years of coaching or more, his winning percentage ranks 6th all time), 8th winningest coach of all time. His first full season in Portland, they went from a 39 win team to a 59 win team, his first season in Sacramento, they went from a 27 win team to an over 500 win team. The guy has won almost everywhere he has gone (except Golden State but even Golden State was better under him).

You can't deny that he is a great coach despite the lack of hardware.

 

I don't think McHale was brought in to tank but I'm not sure if he could surpass 43 wins with his shaky record. But then again, I feel like there are major changes in the works. This new coaching system can be revolutionary for this Rocket's team. The coaching staff being assembled right now with McHale, Joeger, and Finch has no weaknesses. McHale is second to none in motivation and leadership. Joeger can be like our very own Thibs or Van Gundy with his defense. Both Finch and Joeger can work out the X's and O's. Finch is good at player development and McHale could also help develop our young bigs. I'm really getting excited about this!!

 

Why? we can break the record for player trades.
also we will fire and hire the same coaches multiple times. During the same year.

 

LMFAO, imagine the possibilities and the conflicts of a clutchfans front office.

I will thoroughly enjoy the off court drama.

 

You also can't deny that he's 69 and will be 70 this season. Pointing to his coaching history as proof that we should have kept him is like saying Clyde Drexler should suit up and play for us because he's a HOF sg.

This season Adelman has coached like a B level coach, not a hall of famer. He benched PP for half a reason just because he's too lazy to teach the kid his offense, and banished T-will to the nether world for the exact same reason. He would pull Courtney at the slightest mistakes, but then play Aaron Brooks 20 minutes a night no matter what his shooting percentage is. More importantly, he didn't use DM's analytics, that's the cutting edge we have over our opponents and he wouldn't even touch them? Maybe if he did he'd know Brooks was causing the team to lose games.

 

As usual, you've got $Balls where others of us have eyeballs.

If you don't "see" that Center is the position the Rockets need to upgrade the most...there's nothing to discuss.

Any true comparison of McHale and Adelman begins and ends with who starts at C.

 

And despite that, our superstar-less team overachieved with a record above 500.

 

Stop sound like you know anything about coaching an NBA team. B level coach? based on what, that T-Will supposed potential that has never shown on the court except his unwillingness to learn the offense. Do you really expect us to believe RA was too "lazy" to coach Patpat. Pat took the time and watched the games, worked his ass off during practice to get familiar with the offense. that's why when he was on the court, he flourished and was improving and getting more minutes every game. A good coach is never going to throw a rookie that doesn't even know the system to "figure it out on the court". Unlike the next Lebron T-Will, instead of taking time to listen to one of the best coaches in the NBA, decides to b**** and whine all day on twitter.

What the hell has DM's cutting edge number crunching ever significantly helped us win games.

 

Everyone knows the center position needs to be upgraded. Nothing new or particularly insightful there. Among Hayes, Hill, Miller, and Thabeet, 6'6 Chuck Hayes was our best option at C and its not good enough. Here's the thing you didn't understand and maybe still don't understand -- you can't just stick a tall guy in the middle and expect better results. You need to find a tall guy who has upside and also can play effectively, otherwise a coach like Adelman who's all about winning won't play him.

On Battier: the coaching staff and virtually every player on the team believed Battier was integral to what success they had, and they were vocally expressing disappointment when he was traded. Rightly or wrongly, they all genuinely believed that he made the team better. Adelman could have seated Battier and upped Courtney Lee's minutes or added Terrence Williams into the rotation, but he decided that Battier gave him the best chance to win. That's why Battier played while he was here, not because Morey was sticking a gun to Adelman's head.

On Chuck Hayes, first a few quotes you might have missed up in Austin or wherever you are:
[rquoter]
http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showpost.php?p=5910479&postcount=19

Adelman: "He's smart, he's strong. I tell this story all the time but Chuck is kind of like this. When I had Buck Williams, Buck used to guard Karl Malone and all these guys. He would always tell me, "Listen coach, he's going to score his 25, but he's going to work his ass off to score. In the fourth quarter, I'm going to wear him down. I'm going to be there in the fourth quarter, but I'm not giving him anything easy.' I think that's what Chuck does: Nothing easy. If you're going to score you're going to have to earn it. It has an effect on a guy when he's guarding him.

I figured out, it took me a long time, that he's going to have to play more minutes."[/rquoter]

[rquoter]
http://blogs.chron.com/nba/2011/01/blake_show_preempted_rockets_w.html

"He just doesn't get enough credit," Adelman said. "Last year, I couldn't understand how he didn't get any votes for defensive team. I feel the same way. He doesn't get the minutes some of these other guys do. He doesn't block shots. But he's every bit as good a defender as anybody in the league in the post."

After Hayes threw a blanket over Blake Griffin, canceling the Blake Show for a night, Adelman pledged to campaign. Griffin made 5 of 16 shots, never bending a rim.

"He is as good as any defender in this league in the low post," Adelman said. "I'm going to start talking to the coaches at the end of the year when they have the defensive team, if he's not on one of the defensive teams, there's something wrong. He defends ... as well as anybody. He deserves the credit for it."[/rquoter]

And here's a post of yours:

http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showpost.php?p=5673748&postcount=39

LOL. Evidently, Adelman did not agree, and I assume he was watching the games more closely than you.

So, tell me, what sort of balls does Adelman have in his eye sockets?

 

The guy traded our starter the season before, Trevor Ariza, for a back up in Courtney Lee. The team struggled all year at the SF position from a defensive & quickness standpoint. Ariza went on to help the Hornets have a great season, and Morey traded him. Lee a good player but we already had too many guards at the time.

Translation: DUMB TRADE

 

Yeah, trading away one player who was there for one season=shuffling roster. Makes sense.

Oh and btw Ariza sucks balls, most boneheaded he-thinks-he-is-Kobe player I've ever watched. so glad he's gone, so I don't have to witness his brickfests.

 

oh god, an adelman-ariza-only-fan. now i've seen everything

 

I have never understood the need to denigrate one side to justify support of the other side. This is all too common here and only seems to polarize debate.

I see no reason to knock the great job Adelman did coaching this team to express support of McHale.

Adelman did a hell of a job. He was not in agreement with the direction his employer wanted to move. They let him go. Understandable.

As for McHale, people thinking that a team would purposely hire a coach to fail need to quit reading so many toycen threads.

McHale may or may not be a good hire. I'm willing to see what happens before making a determination.

If you're so convinced he was hired to lose, take the bet.

edit: PS - chrisjent, you're schtick is getting tedious

 

It's actually the opposite. If the Rockets win, then they're happy. If the Rockets lose, then they're happy because they're pro-tanking idiots.

CH is just pointing out hypocrisy here, nothing more.

 

supporting the rockets more than rick-adelman-only is a tedious schtick ??? mmmkay

 

Fantastic post and I agree on just about all points. I don't think McHale was hired to lose at all. I'm fine with letting Adelman go if there's a difference of opinion/direction; I'm not fine with attacking Adelman's fine work.

And I'm definitely not fine with people feeding the new troll/Rockets employee. Please don't quote him; his schtick was tedious on his second post. I'm kind of surprised they have him working so much on a holiday.

 

yet you are fine with attacking other people's fine work not names rick adelman.

if i am rockets staffer, then you are rick adelman staffer. maybe you shuold be looking for a new job instead of crapping on rockets.