1. He is actually decently efficient due to the fact that he rarely turns it over. His TO% was 6.8 last year, ridiculously good for a go to scorer who works often in the post. He also takes a good amount of Js, whis drags down your efficiency a bit but helps the team to space the floor. 2. He is more efficient than Zbo was before he became a Grizz. 3. Morey is not above taking a go to scorer with middle of the road efficiecy. See Melo. 4. Yes his D is THAT awful. But that's part of why he is gettable. Kind of like how Kevin Martin's terrible D made him available. 5. I don't know if the Jazz is trading him but it seems to make sense. He was brought in to fill Boozer's job but now they are in full rebuild. 6. I can see Rockets pursuing other "McHale guys" from Minny, too. But Jefferson is a lot more "gettable" than, say, KLove now.
I always liked Big AL, and I always thought that people liked his offensive game, but seriously underrated all the other parts of his game. People like to say that his rebounding is below average, and he is piss poor on D. Of course I don´t think he is an elite defender huge rim protector, because he is not, but just look at the numbers. Dude averages 10 rebs, 1.6 blocks per game, since he became a big time player, I mean, I know those are only numbers, and he is more exposed on 1-1D, but at Center, it is not like you see guys going to work often. One thing he has to get better, is FG%, of course the fact that he shoots jumpers make his percentages go down, but he has to be more effective, and go to work on the post, because he is good at it, despite note being the tallest dude on the floor. One thing that I don´t like is the idea of having a very nonathletic starting front court AL and PP >>>>>> Al and Scola This does not mean PP is better then Scola, he is not yet, but I think we need a more athletic PF along side big Al and a guy that can shoot the mid-range (both Scola and Pat can), a better complimentary player to Big AL. I know some people will disagree, but If I had to choose between giving a contract to Yao, or going after a "cheap" big Al at the age of 26 (even knowing his injury problems), I will go after big Al in a heartbeat. The thing is, we may actually need Yao one year guarantee contract to match salaries. There is only one big problem, who do you offer to match salaries??? There is no way (maybe I am wrong) that they accept Thabeet and Brad Miller in the package, because we have to put them both in the package for salaries to match (no way they want that Scola long contract). How do we do it??? Or do you think it may actually be a draft trade?? Or am I not seeing anything??? PeAcE
According to Enes he has the post moves of Pau Gasol, the Shot of Dirk & the toughness of Dwight....Sounds like a good option to me if he doesn't go no1 after a self promo like that!
he's basically a zach randolph clone. if he's your first option in offense, your team is going nowhere. if we're rebuilding, he's not the guy to build around.
This is why we're being saddled with McHale? Yes, it makes perfect sense. (does anyone have a loaded gun?)
I am a big Al fan, but it still doesn't fill the need we have at C. you can argue he is an upgrade to Scola at best, but is he going to bring you that same consistency? I would make this move only if it was one of many dominos to fall this offseason
Some good reasons to pass on Big Al... * He's not a Center * He'll make $14M in 2011-12 and $15M in 2012-13. (Pretty much evaporating any chance of the Dwight Howard sweepstakes unless DH pulls a Grady on ORL). * You'll need to get in the vicinity of $10.5M to trade. That's Kevin Martin or Luis Scola and change. "And change" is any young player on the Rockets' roster (ie Hill, Dragic, Patterson, Williams or Lee). * He's not a Center.
A bit too convoluted for me to follow, unfortunately. Basically I just can't see the Rockets making so many big changes in the frontcourt for Jefferson to be a good fit. Jefferson can fit the role of a Rasheed Wallace, but so can Patterson or Scola. In that sense he's too redundant. If for some unlikely absurd reason that Thabeet develops into a defensive force, the current Rockets group of PFs would also look good next to him. So overall, there's little to no marginal improvement I can think. I do like Jefferson. Don't get me wrong. But I can't see him being that difference maker on this team. If you're talking about semi-stars around the league that can really improve this team, I find Granger or Iggy to be much better fits.
THIS^^^ Al Jefferson would be a dumb acquisition. His in the Kevin Martin level, in that he won't win you ****, but will manage to keep you mediocre. So by trading for Al Jefferson, not only do you take yourself out of the running for 2012 FA class, but you also take yourself out of the loaded 2012 NBA Draft Class.... so long story short... hell to the NO! on Al Jefferson...
Yep. We won't have that huge expiring contract like we had last time with Kevin Martin. I understand the concept of adding Jefferson to what we have and getting much better but that's not how this works. In order to get Jefferson we would have to give up something like Scola+ young player+ picks. Luis Scola might be the most underrated player on the rockets. Seriously, compare Scola and Jeffersons numbers. Now, I obviously feel Jefferson is the better player but we would have to add so much more than Scola to the equation that it would destroy our future prospects and at best make us a slightly above mediocre team.
Pointless thread. The time we should have traded for Big ___ Al was when the Wolves had him on the market. We're not dealing with Utah and that's that. I understand the Grant Hill posts which are true, and as soon as we do somehow get a guy like this he'll automatically miss a full 2 seasons. And we'll all be disappointed and curse the day Morey ever made the deal.
Out of curiosity, what makes him not a center? 6-10, 280, blocks a couple of shots a game, and is a good, if not very good, rebounder. He's certainly been playing the position the past couple of seasons -- frequently paired with Millsap last year, and usually with Love the year before or Craig Smith the year before that. Maybe my concept of a center has been skewed by the Rockets without Yao the past couple of year, so help me out here. (And call me crazy, but I'd only really have reservations on giving up Patterson, Lee, and maybe Dragic on your list.) However, the idea of Jefferson and Kevin Martin out there is about as appealing to me as Battier and Hayes is to GATER.
He is center. He's just not a paint protector. He can line up next to Patterson or Scola and play just fine. But the Rockets will never have an above average defense with such an interior. A better way to put it would be that on a championship caliber team, Jefferson is not a center. Which would be true provided the rest of your lineup isn't filled with all-NBA defenders(for example a Rodman/Pippen/Jordan trio)
