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Does Daryl Morey even care about being in Houston anymore?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by JimmyJackson, May 28, 2011.

  1. Corrosion

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    Dick Justice .... people even listen to that bafoon ? No playoffs , a questionable coaching hire , the 14th pick ..... and now people reading / listening to a reject from DC ?

    The only way Justice that can make him relevant is to pull a John McClain and get himself a pair of (o)(o)'s with no journalistic talent to stand next to him during interviews. Ugh , I hate listening to McClain - breathing like a pig while talking.
     
  2. AggieRocketsFan

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    He has to prove himself in Houston before he moves on to Broadway.
     
  3. Raven

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    He's been an outstanding GM, with way more hits than misses and his misses have been mostly low cost and his hits have been mostly high reward, which is pretty much how he rolls and why Les hired him. If he has the same success in finance that he's had as a GM, he'll be filthy rich by the time he retires.
     
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  4. Hak34

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    Hardly. He has been all show and no go so far in Houston. Amazing that so many of you drink the crazy cool aid.

    His time here has been a colossul failure yet you want to attribute a few decent drafts that outside of Houston these players have been nominal players at best (Landry and Brooks).

    His total body of work has been just terrible and he has set this franchise back with each idiotic move.

    Seriously, we now how hire dummy coaches and let the GM pick the assistants? Why would Les allow this at all?


    Get off the jock and realize this. The Rockets have progressively gotten worse through the DM years. Cry "injuries" cry whatever, point is we were last in our division last year. We currently have nothing as far as roster talent goes, we have a terrible pick, and DM has had ZERO ability to even get any of the big name players to look at Houston, which is a far cry from what Houston used to be.

    I see way more mistakes than I see "good" moves that you refer too.
     
  5. Shroopy2

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    I'm sure Justice was trying to project Morey as versatile renaissance man kind of hotshot. Like the high school senior that already has a full scholarship to Yale before the year started and making everything look too easy in public school. So he's just doing unconventional things to challenge HIMSELF while he's in place until the eventual move onward. (See we can make boastful, flattering imagery of Morey as well)

    But the "doesnt need this job" thing is the key part. That makes Morey look like a ladder climbing opportunist. Though how would Justice really know that?
     
  6. Raven

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    Morey inherited a team with two superstars that immediately started,,,,,,oh to hell with it, if honestly think Morey has done a poor job then nothing will convince you otherwise.
     
  7. pbthunder

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    Is being a GM a 40-hour-a-week job, anyhow? Even if he calls every GM every week, how long does that take? I figure he can delegate most of his job. If he can pull off being a GM while running a hot dog empire, or whatever, on the side, then more power to him.

    As for Thabeet and Hill: I have no inside info, but my take on Thabeet is that his problem is more a lack of talent than desire. I am sure Hill has some desire, but maybe not as much as he should. If we don't unload some of our PFs, I'm not sure how fast he'll progress, anyhow. Not to mention the PFs that I'm sure DM is going to draft.
     
  8. Shroopy2

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    Who are these big names that have "looked at" and signed with Houston pre-Morey, if you're talking about actual free agents? Bob Sura? Eric Piatkowski? Bonzi Wells? Stromile Swift?

    Steve Francis though a complete bust was a big name. Trevor Ariza was a popular name, though an average player.

    All the big names have been acquired via TRADE. Every one of them. Drexler, Barkley, McGrady. Even Mutombo was a trade.

    What you're saying by having a "terrible pick" is that Morey hasnt made the team SUCK enough to get a high pick. Which makes him a failure at not being horrible.
     
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  9. Raven

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    Hush, we're bashing Morey, take your critical thinking somewhere else.

    :)
     
  10. Hakeemtheking

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    pnthunder, read the scouting reports on Thabeet BEFORE he got drafted 2nd overall. Dude had a rep for being a hard worker. Whatever happened to that work ethic of his? $5M per year might change a lot of players. For ultra-competitive guys like Kobe, it might not make a difference, but for others, it might.

    I truly hope that I am wrong in my reading of Thabeet and Hill, and they turnout to be the bigs that we need.
     
  11. SuperKev

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    Except McHale was the worlds worst GM.
     
  12. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    McHale certainly left a lot to be deisred, but he did take Garnett and engineered a draft day trade to get Love.

    Kahn, thus far, has done worse than McHale.
     
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    BREAKING NEWS:

    Morey calls Cats' "assets"

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    "Investment banker"........yeah, otherwise known as crook.
     
  15. Pete the Cheat

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    BREAKING NEWS:

    Morey deals assets while investing. Stocks offended.

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    RELATED NEWS:

    Euro takes a flop. Smells like cheese.
     
  16. pbthunder

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    I'm not sure I get you - are you saying that Thabeet doesn't work hard now? That's not what I'm saying. As I said, I think he simply lacks the ability to be much of an NBA player. As for Hill, I am sure that he will be at least a rotation player. I would say he is already a rotation player, except, if he is to be considered a Rox PF, there are Scola, PPatt, and Hayes ahead of him, unless Hayes is playing C, or one of them is injured.

    With our current lineup at C, Hill is in that rotation. I'm not sure that DM will get us another center this season.
     
  17. Scarface281

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    Zach Randolph always produced. He just didn't dominate like he did this year.
     
  18. Ziggy

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    I'm with you. It gets old trying to reiterate how DM built an amazing team around 2 guys with max contracts who were wearing suits on the sidelines. He was dealt a garbage hand and somehow put winning teams out there.
     
  19. Nook

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    You would be wrong... the current Bulls staff, the Mavericks staff, the Jazz staff, the Celtics staff, the Heat staff all have had huge input from the front office.... and usually some sort of compromise where a number of names are thrown out, and both sides negotiate and agree.

    There is one common thread with all the teams listed above though.... the head coach and the front office have a good relationship and are on the same page. The Heat and Mavericks being two great examples of that..

    In the case of Miami and Utah, they go as far as to tell their coaches who to play.... something Morey did not do.

    I think it is a great model.... a modern NBA head coach is like KC Jones or Phil Jackson..... they are basically managers and ocassional teachers.... the actual drills are ran by another coach. The defense is stressed and ran by a top assistant coach, and the offense is the same way....

    Look at LA: Jackson managed people and ego's... tex winter controlled the offense, and then Shaw was the idea of the front office.
     
  20. PeppermintCandy

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    Interesting, I'll have to take your word about the other teams. But it seems like veteran coaches try to rehire as many of their former assistants as they can whenever they get a new gig after a hiatus.

    And there's probably room for negotiation at the start of a coach's tenure, but it's probably hard to convince a coach to fire assistants two or three seasons in, no? Like Morey reportedly suggesting Adelman to add Finch.

    I can see that happening in Miami with Riley and Spoelstra, but they have a special master-apprentice relationship. I can't see it in Utah, unless you're talking post-Jerry Sloan.

    Anyway, I agree a better relationship between the FO and the head coach should be a priority, but I also see a need for some separation as well.
     

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