tip jar bet: i guarantee kmac's Rockets will win more than Adelman's did last year

I love how some of you tend to pin the horrible start on everybody but Morey's constant shuffling of the roster. I don't think it had anything to do with minutes, more so the difficulty in the team finding a identity.

As far as Mchale, the guy hasn't had any reasons that makes me believe he's a better coach than Adelman. The Rockets will suck next year regardless of who's playing. As long as Morey's GM, we'll either be terrible or mediocre.

 

How can you set standards or even compare him to Adelman if they don't have the same roster? It's unlikely McHale will be coaching the same roster Adelman did last season. So this question seems pointless.

 

then that same rule applies to people who criticize the coaching change. if they can't be compared, then you can't say its a bad move.

 

I would also like to add $100 to the tip jar in favor of the Rockets being a better team next year.

Welcome to Houston, Kevin McHale!

 

CH,your interpretation is incorrect. McHale has not been brought with tanking as a purpose. 35 wins is the maximum that he can achieve imo with him in a 82 game season. I doubt if he could equal what Adelman achieved in the last 2 seasons even if Mr. Intangibles hadn't been traded.

 

Then it sounds like you should take the bet. If you're that sure then why not?

Kind of interesting that the only people willing to put up their money are the people that think that the Rockets will be better next year. How come nobody will take their bets?

The only way that we improve is that either McHale coaches up the current roster and they perform better or Morey makes some moves and upgrades the roster. If McHale is going to be such a bad coach and Morey is such a poor GM then how could that happen? Sounds like easy money.

 

I think the chances of them "blowing it up" to rebuild is close to 50/50 compared with them continuing to retool/accumulate assets. Which makes the bet a fair one using this year's record as the over/under. In that case I would take the over as well: we've traded this year's biggest cancer off the team, which means we should already be ahead straight out of the gate next season, all else equal.

If I've said it once I've said it a million times, coaching is overrated in the NBA. And especially by fans on message boards. Talent is about 100x more important. If Kevin McHale and his staff can meet the bare minimum of competency, then the improved talent that finished off the year should carry over to the next. And that is something I'm willing to bet on.

 

I agree with you. You can't judge K-Mac on next year's record if the Rockets trade their veterans for younger players.

 

I don't think tanking is the goal at all, but I don't think the Rockets really care that much about increasing the winning percentage next year. The Rockets aren't going to purposely tank, but they are not necessarily going to put the best 5 on the floor to win the game, they are going to play the 5 that's going to increase the value of their players.

Just taking Battier as a example, giving him minutes was not going to increase his value any, and we weren't going to go very far with him in the lineup. Morey and Les wanted him to have less minutes in favor of Budinger and Williams. Those guys were never going to turn into the player we need, or more likely, be used in a trade to get the player we need, if they are sitting on the bench. Would that help win the current game? No, but who cares if your ceiling is a first round exist?

So I suspect the Rockets found a coach who's willing to stick with the game plan. Play the players with the long term goal in mind. That might result in a worse or better record, but it can only get you closer to the ultimate goal.

That's the theory anyway, I think. I'm not really sold on it though, but it is better then settling for mediocracy.

 

Hate to quote myself from the previous page, but...

 

WIth the same roster, Adelman wins more games than KMac. Hall of Fame coach trumps an average, novice coach at best. I will take that bet.

I suspect that KMac will be tasked with bringing Thabeet and TWill along. Being a former GM, KMac will buy into DM's youth development program. This will translate into less wins (not unless the youth catches fire which is unlikely).

That being said, I will be very surprised if DM does not shake up the roster, making a 1-on-1 comparison mute.

 

i think they are building a promising young staff. machale is the motivational speaker. finch funs adelman's offense. now they're looking for a defensive coordinator (joerger, the grizz ast.?).

but, i also believe they will be able to move "impactful veteran talent" for younger talent and picks. if they are really looking for those kind of trades, they will take a step back next year.

 

Yeah, so when Moery shuffled the roster EVEN MORE at the trade deadline, this team magically found its identity, lol. Good one.

 

Ok. Though I don't bet, there's no way in HELL the Rockets win more games under Mchale. If Mchale works the same roster Adelman did, or 30 transactions in two years, we will be close to last place every year. So the answer is HELL NO.

Mchale is just a figurehead with no real credentials. Why would anyone think he will outperform a HOF coach

 

Or they weren't looking over they're shoulders worrying about being traded anymore. Being the GM was declaring his players movable "assets" all year, the credit would go to Adelman for installing confidence in his players. Not Morey, weak argument

 

Someone probably mentioned this already, but hiring McHale, knowing that we need a big man right before the draft, has to be a huge plus.

 

Do you read over your own posts. They don't make sense. How can you pin the 0-5 start on "Morey's constant shuffling of the roster". I don't remember Morey constantly shuffling the roster in the first 5 games or the off season before it.

 

K-Tank gets anywhere close to 40 wins and he'd have failed at tanking too ...

 

If the scenario were... The rockets have assembled a squad that neither coach had any experience with, then I would agree 100% with that statement.

This is not the scenario the rockets are currently in. The HOF coach has already been here for a while, our players have learned a lot from him. Aside from thabeet and twill, I feel like our roster is pretty intelligent from a basketball perspective, they aren't just going to forget what the well respected coach taught them.

Factor in that we are bringing in an assistant who runs adelmans offense and you would think that things from an offensive perspective will probably be run pretty much the same as they were with adelman.

IF we do what I hope and think we will do and keep a good majority of this group together and continue to make the gradual improvements to our roster along with the natural progression of our younger guys, I don't see why we won't be better than next year.