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Lebron Winning a Tainted Ring?

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by Qball, May 27, 2011.

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If Lebron didn't recuit Bosh and it was only him and Wade in Miami, would you be more

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  3. I would cheer for him regardless of how many additional superstars

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  1. BleedRocketsRed

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    He clearly said GOING to a team with alot of talent hurts your chances in a GOAT discussion. MJ/Bird/Magic/etc did not go onto those teams, they were drafted by those teams.
     
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    Exactly,beat boston 1 ring. Beat the bulls, that's the finals. Might as well pack up and go home dallas.
     
  3. NMS is the Best

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    It won't be as tainted as D-Wade's...
     
  4. rmoreno

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    WOW, how can you make that comparison:eek:. ALL THREE OF THEM (olajuwon, clyde, barkley) WERE AT THE END OF THEIR CAREERS. While Lediva, Dwade, and Bosh are still in their prime. Thats why he gets crucified.
     
  5. rmoreno

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    Shaq, hahahahahahahaha. If you didn't notice he played 2 min in the series. Rondo was also injured, and the rest of their players are past their primes. I mean KG is contemplating retirement. Just saying.....
     
  6. JimRaynor55

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    You seriously think I don't know that Shaq barely played? Still, did we see anyone at the beginning of the season talking about how Boston was "too" stacked, and going for a tainted ring? Did anybody say any of that about the 2008 Boston team? You get the damn point.
     
  7. professorjay

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    How does this change what they accomplish on the court?
     
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    Bosh is clearly more of role player.
     
  9. JimRaynor55

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    If LeBron had ran off to a crap team willing to sign him for a ridiculously inflated contract, people would criticize him for putting money before winning. As they have with other players before. Players making winning a priority is something to be praised...unless they do it too well.
     
  10. gmoney411

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    Ad the previous poster said, I put going in there for a reason because that does change things. However, ignoring that I will discuss it from a strictly talent aspect.

    The problem with brining up the old teams and saying people have had trios before is that no team has ever had a trio like this of proven players all in their primes. Sure Magic, Kareem, Worthy is just as good or an even better but their primes never lined up. Sure KG, Allen, and Ray are close if they are all 27-29 but those guys got together in a later stage of their careers. The old Celtics are as close are you are going to get but but I think talent wise Wade/Bosh>McHale/Parish. I can't think of another team that had three legitimate 25 plus point scorers all on the same team at once in their primes and all 3 of them are good or great defenders.

    Also, with all the expansion since the 80s the talent pool is more spread out. The Lakers, Celtics, and Pistons all had three HOFs back then. We had two if Ralph doesn't go down, the Bulls had two, the sixers had three. As dominant as the Lakers have been over the last three years they only have one HOF. the Magic only have one, the Spurs only have one, Dallas has 1.5 with super old Kidd, etc. You get 2.5 HOF in their prime in today's game and you are going to dominate.
     
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    He is making just as much in Miami as he would or could have made anywhere else.
     
  12. dsid411

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    Exactly.
     
  13. JimRaynor55

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    Which is beside the point, which was a hypothetical scenario.
     
  14. professorjay

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    I'm tired of all these arguments. "I don't like when they did it." "I don't like how they did it." "I don't like that they did it at all." How many excuses are we going to make before we actually talk about what happens on the court?

    Take whatever talent those teams had at that point in time. Older, younger, whatever. Still rank the Heat over all of them?
     
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    lol how quickly people change their tune.. first the heat arent good enough because they arent a team and they cant win the finals with 3 players.. now its a "tainted" ring because of god knows what.. i would expect all the rockets fans here to be pulling for lebron since they are playing the DALLAS MAVERICKS.. the mavericks people.. Go Heat!!!
     
  16. Steve_Francis_rules

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    Do you even watch the games or do you just look at the final score and let the game play out in your imagination according to your preconceived notions about how it should go down? I really cannot imagine the universe you must be living in if you have been watching Miami's playoff games and you think Lebron is the one "riding coattails."
     
  17. BleedRocketsRed

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    He joined Wade's team, wtf did you expect people to say?

    Wade defeated the Celtics (did you watch that series?) and game 5 against the Bulls last night, it was DWade who sparked that comeback (did you even watch that game?). Keep in mind, he is playing hurt. LeBron dickriders get so butthurt when I point it out.
     
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    What a dumb ass thread.
     
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    Your explanations were nothing but excuses to invalidate other great combinations. Or shall I say try to invalidate other great combinations. But to give you one recent example, the Big 3 of the 08 Celtics were in their prime. They were all between the ages of 30 and 31, and all had great seasons the year before they got to Boston. I don't know why you, and others, want to suddenly age people to recreate history to fit your conclusions. 30-31 years of age is not post prime. For example, Hakeem was 31 and 32 when he led us to our titles.

    Need another? When the 83 Sixers won, Moses was 27 and won the MVP in back to back years. Doc was 32 and finished 4th in MVP voting, and won it the previous season. Cheeks was 26. Bobby Jones was 31. Moses decided to leave us and go there, to a team that had just lost in the Finals. Yes, I think the 83 Sixers had more talent then the current Heat.

    There are numerous other examples. I would list them but what's the point if you are just gonna come up with bs excuses to try and invalidate them. Just save us the time and say you don't like "how" the team was assembled. It's clear this team doesn't have more talent than tons of past championship rosters.
     
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