Here are some measurements: Williams and Kanter, measured very well. However Irving doesn't posses the length of recent #1 pick PG's have had. (Wall 6'9 wingspan / Rose 6'8 wingspan)
Here's some more: Seem's like Faried and Harris may have hurt their stock with their measurement. On the other end, Leonard and Brooks, may have upped their stock by measuring with some pretty crazy wingspans.
Is Bismack going to the combine? I haven't heard any news about him, and I think he had something like a 7'7'' wingspan.
Yeah he measured with a 7'7 wingspan, but I don't think he was at the combine and neither was Lucas Nogueira. Both have larger wingspans then 7'5, which was the longest at the combine.
chadfordinsider Chad Ford Tristan Thompson. 6' 7.5" socks. 6' 8.75" shoes 7' 1.25" wing 9' 0.5" reach.
Already been discussed by Chad Ford and the hot shot trainer in Chicago. I've watched his games. He looks a lot more like Kobe in practice than in the games. But you can see what he could possibly do. He's got SKILLZ .... big time. I just don't know if he will be closer to Jamal Crawford or Kobe. But he is a very tempting player. This is a guy that could come in and start or be a primary bench player. He's a guy that can score the ball and make plays. He's got the handle, the jukes, the shot, and the length and size to finish. And from what I've seen at Providence, he's go the drive to be great. I like him a lot. Don't see how he goes 2nd round or even low first round. Another thing, watch video of Marshon and then watch video of Kawhi Leonard. What I see is one player that is smooth as butter with the ball, no hitches in his shot, no hitches in his moves, he can go between the legs with the dribble like nothing, in rhythm and then when I watch Kawhi, I see this somewhat mechanical robotical player when he's handling the rock. Of course Kawhi is more a SF than a SG and Marshon is definitely a SG, but all the hype on Kawhi for his athleticism and making jump shots in practice jamming him up into the high lottery.....I'm convinced if he goes high that he is going to disappoint. He may be a decent NBA player but he's another dime a dozen small forward with athleticism but an average skill set. Brooks, on the other hand, has a very developed skill set. I would be willing to bet that Brooks has the better NBA career.
Serious question. What makes Brooks different to Jermaine Taylor coming out of college? Both seniors, similar height, similar output. http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/player/profile?playerId=26812 I mean, I like Brooks' game and what I've heard but what makes these two different?
I think that our best shot to move up is to trade for Cleveland's #4 or Washington's #6. I don't think the Rockets will get #2 if Indiana trades Granger plus filler to Minnesota. I think Kevin Martin would be a great fit for both teams. Any trade to move up would have to involve him, IMO. If we got #4, I would consider Vesely, Biyombo, Jonas, and Kanter if available (for some reason DraftExpress has him at #8). If we got #6 I would consider whoever is left on the board from the players I listed and maybe include Alec Burks. The reason I included Bismack at #4 is because of the chance Toronto might consider him at #5. They might think that a Bismack and Ed Davis combo would compliment Andrea Bargnani nicely. If the Rockets were able to trade up like this and somehow keep #14, I would love Chris Singleton.
This is exactly what I fear. Because..Biyombo would complement those two very nicely. And Colangelo is a very smart GM.
Raptors are reportedly going to go after one of Brandon Knight or Kemba Walker. Whichever one Utah doesn't pick, which is probably Walker.
So, who do I want to draft??? Well, for starters if we stay at 14 or move up from there, I want one of these guys: 1. Derrick Williams - would love to have him and have our new coach plop him out at the three. He's going to be very good. 2a. Enes Kanter - very good center 2b. Bismach Biyombo - I really think I like him better than Kanter because of his defensive potential, and his quick feet. Would love to draft him and get Hakeem to develop him alongside CD and Yao. 3. Jan Vesely - another very long small forward prospect with a great motor and great work ethic. He's going to be very good. 4. Marcus Morris - If we stay at 14, I'd love for him to still be there when we draft. He's another college 4 that will play the 3 in the NBA. He's got an NBA skillset, can create his own shot, can get a shot for somebody else, can shoot the J. He's a player. If we cannot get one of those 5 players at #14, I'd like to either trade the 14 pick along with Scola to another team for an established center or trade down in this draft and pick up another first rounder next season (2012). The next group of prospects I would like if we traded down would be in no particular order: 1. Jimmer Fredette - He'll score the ball plenty in the NBA. Would be good value and will increase in value after he laces them up. 2. Marshon Brooks - Would love to have this kid to develop and if we got him late in the first, he could make moving Kevin Martin a whole lot easier. 3. Justin Harper - 6'10" kid with a smooth, smooth jump shot from anywhere. Very skilled offensive player that can play the 3. 4. Reggie Jackson - a PG that will rival Brandon Knight and may have a better NBA career than Kemba, highly skilled shooter, with freakish wingspan and athleticism that will be a very good PG defender in the NBA. 5. Klay Thompson - Mycal Thompson's son, got into trouble with the law, I think he got caught with pot, but he's a player, got a good handle and can shoot and sees the floor well. 6. Jordan Williams - I suspect he's going to creep into the first round. 7. Kenneth Faried - the next Chuck Hayes, undersized center who does all the nasty stuff In the second round, these are my picks in no particular order: 1. Jordan Williams if he lasts this long 2. Keith Benson if he lasts this long 3. Jimmy Butler if he lasts this long 4. Milan Macvan - still got a mancrush on this baby fat boy. He can play. 5. Charles Jenkins - if he lasts this long These are the players I would consider with picks availabe at the different areas of the draft. Nobody else really sticks out to me and some of these guys are borderline such as Klay Thompson.
My sleeper pick Nikola Vucevic 6' 11.75", 260lbs wingspan7' 4.5" reach9' 4.5" The type of guy that Morey and co likes: Upperclassman, no character issues, improved every year, solid fundamentals w/ no great weaknesses. IMO, he would be a good prospect at late first round. Seems more like a PF than a C but considering that Scola might be traded in a package to move up the draft, Nikola would be a solid option behind Hayes and Patpat.
I'm going to go with a no! to Jordan Williams. He severely undermeasured at the combine for a center(6'9/ 7'0 wingspan & 8'10 standing reach). He really doesn't have one attribute, besides strength, that say's that he will be able to defend center's.
I understand where you're coming from. I'd much rather have him in the second round where the risk is minimal. I put him in the group at the end of the first because I think there's a chance everybody else is gone by then. He does have plenty of bulk and strength.
Not one coach, nor teammate has said even one decent thing about the guy since he started playing professionally.
