Lance had a towel over his head once after whoopin up the other competitors and ATW thought it was a turban, hence his attitude toward him.
People need to face the facts that America is a big group of cheaters. The only reason we dominate in the Olympics is because we are all juiced.
I'm good friends with a guy connected in the field, had his own pro-am team but more importantly is close with plenty of "in the know" folks. My views on the subject: Blood doping and performance enhancers have been beyond rampant for decades in cycling. It's not new either - been going on since freaking Vietnam. Like the MLB and the NFL, the issue isn't whether someone got busted, it's whether rules were on the books or tests available to bust users. I'm a cynic, but I believe if you took blood samples and tested everyone in the US pro leagues, you'd have a frighteningly high positive result rate. Especially in the NFL. Greg Lemond may be the only true clean winner of the Tour in the last several decades. Lance used, he had a California BioTech making him a his own designer drug to evade testing. SI pulled a lot of their stuff from the story under serious pressure. Armstrong has a lot of influential friends at this point. Those friends are the only thing in between him and a federal conviction. Having said all of that... I don't hate athletes for using PEDs, I honestly don't view it as black and white cheating (though for the most part I do consider it cheating). If anything bugs me, it's the lying that irritates me. I made fun of Bonds for juicing....I don't like Bonds because of his arrogant lying.
I hope he does, what's most annoying is just how much money and marketing he got for being this heroic saint for cancer patients etc. I hope his foundation was transparent, when they aren't regulated he could snip a good amount of money for some bs fees and just enjoy it himself, clearly his ethics/morals are questionable
Things are never as black and white as people would like. Cheater or not, Lance Armstrong has done a hell of a lot more good than bad in his career. I get that his arrogance and self-righteousness rubs people the wrong way, but who's he really hurting, when 90% of his peers are probably cheating as well? I'll never get why people get so caught up over professional athletes juicing. They're entertainers. Mark McGwire hitting 600ft bombs over the Green Monster in the HR derby is a hell of a lot more entertaining that watching David Eckstein wasting an out on a sacrifice bunt.
Two more coming out and confirming that Lance is a huge cheat, and a bigtime liar. Former teammate says Lance Armstrong injected EPO Tyler Hamilton joined Floyd Landis on the list of cyclists who once worked for Lance Armstrong but now say the seven-time Tour de France winner used performance-enhancing drugs. http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/sports/2015099749_apcycarmstrongdoping.html Tyler Hamilton joined Floyd Landis on the list of cyclists who once worked for Lance Armstrong but now say the seven-time Tour de France winner used performance- enhancing drugs. In an interview with "60 Minutes," Hamilton admitted that he doped and said Armstrong did, as well - using the blood booster EPO in the 1999 Tour and before the race in 2000 and 2001. Armstrong's string of seven straight wins lasted from 1999- 2005. "I saw (EPO) in his refrigerator. ... I saw him inject it more than one time, like we all did. Like I did, many, many times," Hamilton said in the "60 Minutes" interview that was aired Thursday on the "CBS Evening News." He said Armstrong "took what we all took ... the majority of the peloton," referring to riders in the race. "There was EPO ... testosterone ... a blood transfusion." Armstrong immediately refuted the Hamilton interview, launching a website that denied the claims. He also tweeted: "20+ year career. 500 drug controls worldwide, in and out of competition. Never a failed test. I rest my case." But the Hamilton interview keeps the news of Armstrong and his alleged doping program in the headlines. Last week, The Associated Press reported that a federal investigation into whether Armstrong and his former U.S. Postal team ran a systematic doping program is pushing into its second year, and that the feds recently asked French authorities for evidence in a request that mentions Armstrong by name. As it did when Landis made his accusations, Armstrong's camp was quick to undercut the credibility of the accuser. "Hamilton is actively seeking to make money by writing a book, and now he has completely changed the story he has always told before so that he could get himself on '60 Minutes' and increase his chances with publishers," Armstrong attorney Mark Fabiani said. "But greed and a hunger for publicity cannot change the facts: Lance Armstrong is the most tested athlete in the history of sports: He has passed nearly 500 tests over twenty years of competition." A report by ESPN said Hamilton sent a letter to friends apologizing for lying about his past drug use. He said he testified six hours before the Los Angeles grand jury investigating Armstrong. It will be up to the members of the grand jury to decide whether they believe the Hamilton who steadfastly denied doping for years - at times concocting elaborate excuses for his positive tests - or the one who testified under oath about the Armstrong case. Landis, meanwhile, is an unlikely witness in this case, even though it was his revelations a year ago this week that poured fuel on the investigation. He was stripped of his 2006 Tour de France title after testing positive for taking synthetic testosterone, denied taking performance- enhancing drugs for years, then finally admitted he doped for much of his career - a mea culpa that also implicated Armstrong. Asked to comment on Hamilton's interview, Landis said in an email to The AP: "The only comment I have is that I wish the best for Tyler." Hamilton, 40, won a cycling gold medal at the 2004 Athens Games but failed a drug test later. He was allowed to keep his medal, however, because problems at a laboratory meant his backup 'B' sample could not be tested. Months later, he was caught blood doping and served a two-year ban which ended in 2007. Hamilton returned to racing and won the 2008 U.S. road championship, but retired last spring after admitting he took an antidepressant that contained the banned steroid DHEA. He was officially banned from cycling for eight years. The International Olympic Committee could strip Hamilton of his gold medal, IOC vice president Thomas Bach told The Associated Press on Friday. Bach said the committee will examine Hamilton's statements that he doped throughout his career. "If there is any need or possibility to take action we will do it," said Bach, who heads most of the IOC's doping investigations. Bach said he hasn't seen Hamilton's statements yet but "we will look into this." The IOC can retroactively strip Olympic medals if proof of doping emerges later or an athlete admits to cheating. The IOC took away Marion Jones' five medals from the 2000 Sydney Games after she admitted using performance-enhancing drugs. The "60 Minutes" segment, which will air in its entirety Sunday, also includes an interview with another former Armstrong teammate, Frankie Andreu. Now one of the race directors at the Tour of California, Andreu told Pelley he took banned substances because lesser riders he believed were doping were passing him. "Training alone wasn't doing it and I think that's how ... many of the other riders during that era felt, I mean, you kind of didn't have a choice," he is quoted as saying. Andreu's wife, Betsy, who has said Armstrong discussed taking performance-enhancing drugs as doctors prepared him for cancer treatment in 1996, said she and her husband are working with investigators. "We are cooperating, and we'll just tell the truth. And telling the truth has been costly," she said. "It's not popular to tell the truth about Lance." Andreu and Hamilton were both in on the ground floor of Armstrong's record-breaking Tour de France domination, and were among the key cyclists he relied on and lived with as he put his grip on the three-week race. They both rode with Armstrong for the first two Tours that he won, in 1999 and 2000, all together under U.S. Postal colors. Hamilton rode with Armstrong on his 2001 Tour win for U.S. Postal, too. Andreu's Tour links with Armstrong also predate the start of his winning streak. Andreu and Armstrong were teamed together at Motorola for the 1993, '94, '95 and '96 Tours. In his biography, "It's Not About the Bike," Armstrong described Andreu on that first winning Tour in 1999 as "a big powerful sprinter and our captain, an accomplished veteran who had known me since I was a teenager." Hamilton was a climber, and one of his jobs was to help haul Armstrong up the Tour's punishing climbs. But that teamwork is long gone, replaced by a damning accusation. Also in the interview, Hamilton said Armstrong failed a drug test at the 2001 Tour de Suisse, the same accusation Landis made when he went public with his allegations last year.
I find it hard to believe that almost every former teammate/best friend has been caught and admitted to using PED for years including their time with Lance, and Lance wasn't involved or know about. Add that to the fact that he dominated a field full of Barry Bonds, and I find it almost ludicrous to think that he didn't cheat himself. BTW, he has tested positive for EPO, they just didn't have the B sample.
When Jan Ullrich comes out against Lance then i'll believe. Side note: You've posted here long enough to know better than to cut/ paste giant blobs of words and expect us to read them.
Everybody seems to believe that Lance used, but the guy has never tested positive. If the guy never tested positive, then he was clean. Case closed. I fail to see how any athlete could be under so much scrutiny and yet none of the talking heads can find the absolute smoking gun, a positive test. Call me naive if you want. Until he is proven guilty he ain't guilty.
Naive is not enough to describe what you just posted. Marion Jones never tested positive...for a long time. Barry Bonds did not. Yet, they were all caught ultimately. And Lance Armstrong DID test positive. What rockbox said is exactly true.
At this point I just don't don't care that much -- have they even finished the investigation on last years winner? I ate steak with growth hormone...
Why? Because you believe he is guilty or you have proof he was? And, if armstrong tested positive, explain to me again why the government isn't putting him in jail for lying in a federal investigation?
Because the case is not closed yet. You wait and see. Did you think Marion Jones would land in jail? http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/armstrong-investigation-progressing-but-case-is-solid Armstrong investigation progressing, but case is 'solid' Investigation unaffected by fallout from Barry Bonds case News agency AP reports that prosecutors are progressing with plans to pursue Lance Armstrong on drug-related fraud and corruption charges, despite a less than convincing result in a similar case against former US baseball player Barry Bonds. U.S authorities have approached their European counterparts for assistance in gathering evidence about the recently retired RadioShack rider along with members of his former US Postal team. Should such evidence be available, it would boost the Food and Drug Administration’s case against the seven-time Tour de France winner, which is currently before a grand jury in Los Angeles, and have a large bearing on the decision to press criminal charges in relation to his alleged use of performance-enhancing drugs. Armstrong could also find himself charged with fraud and conspiracy if it’s found that an alleged doping program was allowed to flourish while the team received government sponsorship. "This case isn't like Bonds and Clemens," a source familiar with the case said to AP – the latter facing trial for perjury following the alleged use of performance enhancing drugs. "Those were about lying. This is about corruption to the core." Officials have described the investigative process as an incredibly complex procedure which of course means it has to take time. Some within the US however have questioned the use of public funding on cases like Armstrong, particularly considering it has an uncertain outcome. "There is a substantial investment in the investigation which makes it less likely that they'll walk away from it," said Laurie Levenson, a former federal prosecutor. "I don't think they would spend this time or money as a witch hunt against Lance Armstrong." The US professor believes the investigation has more substance to it than much of the mainstream media would have you believe and dismisses comparisons with the Bonds case. As does a European official co-operating with the investigation. "Was (Bonds) also accused of fraud involving federal funds? I know Novitzky isn't the only one investigating." Because of the enormity of the case, investigators from other agencies including the FBI and IRS have also been conducting separate inquiries. It is Novitzky, however who has the most scope and has continued his pressure on European authorities to get access to past drug tests undertaken while Armstrong was in his peek. Many were stored and frozen by the French anti-doping agency from the period of 1999-2005 but some being requested are also from the period of Armstrong’s return in 2009. US investigators will also be asking for witness statements from a number of officials and people within France, including former head of the French anti-doping agency Pierre Bordry and a number of Armstrong's former US postal teammates. Meanwhile, Novitzky, who also has been involved in the Bonds and Clemens cases, is insisting on the need for secrecy from the Europeans, warning that leaks could compromise the probe. "They want the procedure to be solid," one official familiar with the case said to AP. "He is doing a very good job," the official added, referring to Novitzky's conduct during the probe. "When he bites, he doesn't let go."
Good analogy. Both were charge with perjury, not for Steroid use. The evidence against Lance is he[a]r say. Suck on that.
