I would propose this trade... Kevin Martin, Kyle Lowry, Jordan Hill and 14th pick for Ricky Rubio, Anthony Randolph, Michael Beasley and 2nd overall pick It would really set us up for the loaded 2012 NBA Draft...
If Danny Granger is being moved Morey HAS to make sure he's coming here. You just just don't get too many chances to acquire elite 1st/2nd tier type players.
We have no need for Beasley or Randolph with Scola, Patterson and hopefully Hayes around..plus we could draft Faried at #14 and right off the bat we'd have a better defender than those two guys will ever be. Don't understand the Rubio love..I guarantee he will never be a great NBA PG...certainly not better than Lowry. Trading Martin for the #2 pick is a lateral move but losing the contract is a bonus. More than fine staying at #14 and #23...this draft is not nearly as bad as people are saying, there are alot of really great gems and while we may not get a superstar we can get two insanely productive players in the draft. Stay put.
If Indiana is in fact willing to move Granger, forget going after the #2 pick. Granger is a GUARANTEED All-Star, and there is no way I'm letting him get moved without Indiana hearing an offer from me if I'm the Rockets. Instead of thinking about how we can undercut the Pacers, we need to be thinking about how we can undercut the T-Wolves.
Iguodala is injured, a second tier-borderline all star... is over paid and breaking down... I do not see how he helps the Rockets long term.
Hmm.... you mean, based on the fact Yao will be a FA and then we dealt our own pick, lotto protected... and then made sure we just got the Knicks pick in 2012, and in 2011 had the right to switch, rather than the other way around? ..... you know, you are right, the more you think about it, it is as if Morey is 2-3 steps ahead and has a plan.... so weird.
In every draft, there are guys who fall into the late 1st and early 2nd round that end up being stars. Whether Morey trades up, I would think, is dependent on whether he believes he has spotted such players and hopes to get them with the picks we already have.
Why not??? I bet Morey would actually look at trading both Lowry and Martin if it could net us the rights to Rubio and the #2. Rubio/Dragic Lee/TWill Williams/CBud/Blakely Scola/2Pat/Hill/Cousin Thabeet/Yao/Hayes/Miller
People underrate Iggy because he doesn't score a lot of points. But he plays great defense, passes well, and is a great rebounder. He basically has no weaknesses except for outside shooting. Since our problem isn't scoring, I think he would be a great fit, especially alongside Kmart. He's also just 26. In terms of wins produced, he was the best player on the 76ers. His salary may be too high though, I'll give you that.
The same thing can be said about Granger. Look, if there's a deal for the #2 and fillers for Martin and Martin alone, why would anyone be opposed to it? We know the ceiling on Martin. We know what he's capable and not capable of. With that in mind, we can also assess that Martin is not going to lead us to a championship. This is not a knock on Martin and his abilities but just a realistic view that he's not elite. Anyone is welcome to argue with me on that point, but fact of the matter is, Martin is not that elite player. So would we be risking Martin for a complete unknown? Sure we are but the potential for that #2 (whether it be Williams or Kanter) to be an elite player is STILL there whereas Martin's ceiling has been observed. Tack on the fact that we remove Martin's contract and substitute it with smaller and easier to move contracts, the Rockets would be going towards the right direction of rebuilding. Trading for a player like Granger and giving up Martin is a lateral move. I was high on Granger a couple of seasons back but his game has regressed due to the various injuries he's had over the past couple of seasons. IMO, his career is on course for TMACville in terms of production dwindling down as injuries mount. If Morey thinks it's wise to trade Martin for the #2 plus Beasley and fillers, I'm all for it. Derrick Williams would be ANOTHER forward we would have in the stable but he has potential to be an elite player. Beasley, despite his lack of common sense, is not a bad player to have when the trade deadline comes around when a team in playoff contention might want his services. Hell, Morey might surprise everyone and draft Kanter or that Lithuanian player. That would not only fill a need at center but can potentially strengthen our frontcourt defense.
Lol, Rubio averages 6 points, 3 assists on 32% FG% in Euroleague. He will not start before Dragić and he will never be a better player than Kyle Lowry. Don't believe the hype. You are basically giving Lowry and Martin for tweener MAYBE one day all-star Derrick Williams and a piece of garbage.
Exactly, his salary is atrocious. The reason why he's switched from a scoring swingman to ball distributor is because he knows his knees aren't going to hold up for long. Of course this says a lot about him in the sense that he can accept his chronic knee pains and adjust his game but it still doesn't make him an attractive BUILDING block.
LOL I am guilty as charged for believing the hype but on a different note, Brandon Jennings' career averages in Euroleague were very similar at 7.6 ppg and 1.6 apg, wouldn't you at least take a chance on him? Plus that gives us another marketing option unlike Lowry and Martin (something Les absolutely loves)
I was watching him play earlier today against Unicaja, trust me he is bad. Another stellar 2 point, 2 assist game from him. He is unathletic, turnover prone, terrible shooter, and seems like diva the way he insists to play for Boston, NY, or Miami. Goran will probably do this to Rubio every day in practice and Rubio will cry for home like Spanoulis. <iframe width="425" height="349" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/0jH4wRfkKZE" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
