Eastern Conference Finals (Playoff): Chicago Bulls(1) Vs Miami Heats(2)

haslem THE DIRK STOPPER

 

In that point total i'm including free throws. He should be getting to the line around the double digits.

Around 7-10 points in free throws, 20 points from 10-14 shots how is that other worldly? lol.

He had good moves tonight in the first half, there was like 6 shots that rimmed out. He just lost confidence and stop driving, and when he did drive he was fouled.

 

Thibs after the game: "Defensively, we have to clean a lot of things up."


Defensively?? Are you kidding me? You MFers scored 75 points!

That reminds me so much of the worst parts of the JVG years...

 

you said 25-28 points on 10-14 shots. that's otherworldy for rose to do on a consistent basis.

20pts on 14 shots is different from 20pts on 10 shots or 28 pts on 14 shots. only really efficient players can put games like that consistently. and that means he has to make all of his fts and more than half of his shot attempts to do that. and rose is not a very efficient player, and he definitely hasn't been on in the entire playoffs. like i said, he has had a handful of games like this in the playoffs already

rose probably will have another great game like he did in game 1 b/c he's that good. but don't expect them too often.

the heat's defense is to force rose to take jumpers. when he drives, it's in a packed lane. the shots he missed were over players, not wide open lanes to the basket.

it appears every defensive-minded team have that mentality. KG blamed several losses last series on defense too, not his 1-10 performance.

 

I watched it.

David Stern handed the ship to Miami.

It was disgusting.

 

I honestly don't remember Haslem "stopping Dirk".

Dirk has dropped big numbers, but there were only a couple of games where Dirk shot a horrible percentage, yet Dirk still managed to get his points.

Nobody is stopping Dirk. Aldridge isn't, Gasol isn't and Ibaka hasn't so far. If two all-star level players and this season's best shot blocker isn't stopping Dirk, what makes you think a Utonis Haslem who is not fully healthy will be able to?

And EVEN if Haslem slows Dirk, the Mavs have far more depth and weapons to deal with the Heat.

 

Exactly. Stern didn't want Cuban to have the 'ship that year. Worst reffing job ever.

 

he stopped dirk dude.

23 points on 39% fg, 25% 3s, and not one game he shot over 50%.

 

The point that I'm trying to make is that he doesen't have to have an MVP performance for the Bulls to win, I believe the Bulls are the better team, the way they play together and their chemistry is simply better then the Heat's. He just doesen't need to stink it up, have a good performance get other involved.

It wasn't just him who had poor performance, as a whole they played bad, Noah, Boozer's play was horrendous, Deng in the second half, Bogans wasn't even a factor. With the exception of Gibson and Asik, everyone was just plain bad today.

If everyone just pitches in, with that incredible defense, they can win.

 

you do understand the heat's defense has been BETTER than the bulls so far right?

in game 1, they shot 37% on first shot attempts. tonight, it was even worse if you took out the first quarter where half of their points again came off of offensive rebounds. i don't know why you are expecting the bulls to "suddenly score" on the heat. THEY CAN'T.

the bulls don't win the battle of the boards, they have ZERO CHANCE of beating the heat. they need to destroy the heat on 2nd chance points to win this series.

 

Another point is, that the Heat didn't rush Haslem back. They let him get as close to 100 percent, before being forced to play him.

With Haslem and Miller, not playing much in the playoffs, they should be fresh, and ready to provide hustle, rebounding, and good team D, which is what they did today for the Heat.

 

Game 1, 4-14, 10 rebounds, 4 assists, 16 points

Game 2, 8-16, 16 rebounds, 4 assists, 26 points.

Game 3 9-20, 7 rebounds, 1 assist, 30 points

Game 4 2-14, 9 rebounds, 1 assist, 16 points

Game 5 8-19, 8 rebounds, 3 assists, 20 points

Game 6, 10-22, 15 rebounds, 2 assists, 29 points

Using averages in a playoff series is not a good picture of how well a player performed.

I would hardly say Haslem "stopped" Dirk. Dirk got his numbers.

 

Are you sure about that?

Game 3 against Indiana, Rose shot 4-18.
Game 4 against Indiana, Rose shot 6-22.
Game 1 against Atlanta, Rose shot 11-27.
Game 2 against Atlanta, Rose shot 10-27.
Game 4 against Atlanta, Rose shot 12-32.

Poor shooting nights have been very common for him throughout the playoffs.

 

That's my thought too. I used to think that Thib has a more flexible, balanced mind than JVG.

I still remember JVG kept harping on the efforts when what we needed was somebody who could hit a shot. How much effort do you need to make a wide open shot?

 

look, if you are a star, you're going to get your numbers b/c you touch the ball so many times.

how would you consider "shut down" a player? 0 points?

i thought we shut dirk down in 05 too in the first round. he got 22 points too, but he shot 35%.

 

Those numbers would say that he did, pretty poor numbers by a number one option on a finals team.

 

Since when is 25-28 points on 10-14 shots not an MVP-level performance?

 

Asik was fantastic.

Too bad the Bulls weren't willing to give him up for Courtney Lee.

 

The only reason the Heats defense has seemed superior is because the Bulls dont have the offense the Heat have. The way Bulls completely trapped D-Wade, Lebron and Bosh in the 4 qtr.... are you serious? Bosh on that post up vs Taj. Travel. Wade would've gotten blocked on three straight possession if Noah would'nt of reached in. Lebron was being NEGATED the lane. The reason he came through is because he's the best player in the world and made incredible shots THROUGHOUT the game, that 3? D was draped over him. Shot off the dribble? These are HARD shots that he made because he is just that good.

The Bulls missed easy shots today, all of the shots the Heat made were contested. Please, the Bulls defense is better then the Heats, and when the benches come into the argument is that even a question? The bulls get BETTER.