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Are we gonna keep on pretending that Mark Cuban doesn't run a first class team

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by Carl Herrera, May 17, 2011.

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  1. Qball

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    I don't like owners who try to buy championships. F the Mavs and F the Yankees.
     
  2. gmoney411

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    You say that as if the Mavs didn't play good basketball all year. If Dirk doesn't get hurt in the middle of the season odds are that they would have the best record in basketball and the same can be said about Butler being hurt. The Mavs have given Dirk a great supporting cast.
     
  3. Liberon

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    Take your irrational hate and shove it man. You and the stupid homers that can't appreciate how a rival team is this good need to stfu. I honestly think as long as our GM is Morey and owner is Alexander, we will never be as good as this current Maverick's team. Just face it, we have a owner that is stingy to the dime, Yao made $17. something million, so what other teams have worst contracts and were still able to get expensive 7 footers that could contribute not lame ass Brad Miller.

    And for the record yes Michael Finely was clearly out of bounce so let it go. Yao is never going to get the fair treatment or calls because of his ethnicity so yes we should trade his ass.
     
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    if dirk is always injured, would it still be considered first class?
     
  5. Pull_Up_3

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    Repped
     
  6. Jontro

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    I'd trade Les for Cuban, then trade Cuban for Roman Abramovich. He makes Cuban look like a middle class citizen who drives an Acura.
     
  7. Qball

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    Hey, why don't YOU stfu? How would you like an owner that spends so much dough and still has ZERO rings? How would you like an owner who non-stop b!tches and complains to NBA execs about how his team is always being screwed and his players always getting hosed? How would you like an owner that values winning over ethics? How would you like an owner that purposefully keeps the minority owners at a profit loss just so it evens out his profits from other investments and nets zero income? How would you like an owner that said Kobe's accusal of rape was the best thing to happen to NBA that year?
     
  8. dobro1229

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    Its going to be very interesting to see if the Mavericks can stay competive throughout the rest of the Dirk's years under the new CBA which will most likely not allow for moves such as the "pickup" of Peja and Chandler.

    With a true hard cap and protection from moves previously mentioned, Cuban might have a much harder time operating his team's personel financially.

    Cuban and the Mavs have been extremely fortunate to have a franchise player remain in great health and continue to get even better through this late in his career. Luck does have alot to do with getting that one difference maker player, but to this point Cuban has been willing to overspend to get surrounding pieces around Dirk for good reasons. The Mavs are currently structured financially to ride Dirk all the way to the end of his career.


    However in the future I think the large contracts of players like Haywood for example would be extremely difficult to move if this team ever needed to rebuild under the new CBA.

    If you want to compare Cuban to Les Alexander then thats ok, but the fact of the matter is, is that The Rockets dont have a Dirk Nowitzki, so they need to stay financially flexible to have the opportunity to build around that player when they get him(if they ever get "him") under the new CBA. Spending heavy on role players like Marion and Haywood with no alpha dog would be the worst thing for this franchise. Building an NBA team financially isnt checkers, its chess.

    If you want to talk about massage therapists on planes, and an endless supply of vitamin water, yeah Mark Cuban might spend more on that kind of things. When it comes to tools for a basketball team related to the actual game, all reports are that the Rockets are at least in the top 10 which isnt bad at all.
     
  9. rock4ever

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    No, WE suck. The Mavs don't
     
  10. UTKaluman597

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    The mavs love is pretty gross...but as to the OP..the Mavs have treated all their players like assets going back to the beginning of the Cuban era.. They have had a constant (up until this season pretty much) cycling of players. Did everyone forget Steve Nash? What about having guys like Devin Harris, Antawn Jamison, Finley, etc and getting rid of them just like that? Cuban does not care how much he spends on his team, which is why they can field players like Kidd, Dirk, Terry, Marion, Chandler, Butler, Haywood. The reality of it is that there are only a few teams capable of having such a payroll, and the truth is we are not one of them. I cant believe there are so many posters on this board that are so envious of the Mavs; whether it be their administration, players or coaches. Very disgusting and disappointing.
     
  11. Houston22

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    No, YOU nailed it!
     
  12. jim1961

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    All you people judging the Dallas organization by its success, and then saying they must be better than the Rockets.

    Tell you what, if Dirk and Terry got injured, and Yao and McGrady didnt, your argument would turn 180 degrees.

    Also, im tired of all the Les and Morey garbage. They had a good plan and it got Bin Ladened. Want to say the skyscrapers falling down was the architects fault. Fine. Do that.
     
  13. ThisIsOurCity

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    Have the mavs won the championship yet?

    No. So I dont know how anyone could say Cuban is a better owner or gm outright. He displays his love for his team but that doesn't make you a good owner. For all we know the mavs could pull another choke job before these playoffs are over. And mavs fans are still highly annoying.
     
  14. TheFreak

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    Dirk and Terry getting injured would have been bad luck. Yao (especially) and McGrady getting injured was not surprising. Almost like the Celtics pinning their hopes on Shaq this year.
     
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    How so? It isn't "an excuse," it's the truth. What I can't believe is that people thought we'd pull a "Clutch City" in game 7 when we clearly had already lost the series before that game.

    Irrational hate> I really feel like you should take your irrational LOVE of the Mavs and shove it. APPRECIATE A RIVAL TEAM? Read what you wrote...now go make a thread about all your Jazz and Laker love as well...their organizations are excellent aren't they? :rolleyes:

    "I honestly think as long as our GM is Morey and owner is Alexander, we will never be as good as this current Maverick's team." Sounds like something a Mavs fan would say...are you sure you aren't a Mavs fan? You sure are riding their nuts pretty hard from what I can see. The chips fall where they did, but if you really hate the management, quit watching...I don't think they were completely to blame for Yao and Tracy being busts...:eek:
     
  16. jim1961

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    Maybe you have a crystal ball, but I dont recall either of these guys being a injury risk when we got them. As time went on, yes. It became apparent that our plan was in jeopardy.

    Again, if you go back to when we got them, its not even remotely comparable to the Celts banking on Shaq THIS year.
     
  17. Obito

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    lmfao i had to stop the video, couldn't stop laughing.
     
  18. TheFreak

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    Yes, it was a complete revelation that a 7'6" guy carrying a lot of mass would have injury problems. Have you considered applying for a job at the Rockets FO?
     
  19. jim1961

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    I guess I missed the notice on the bulletin board that said every player over 7ft is automatically a injury risk.
     
  20. pmac

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    You really have to give the man credit. He's basically assembled the 04 Pistons + Dirk.

    They have really good former all-star/near all-star players at every position and a star on top of that. At this point I'd almost be surprised if they don't win a championship.
     

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