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Derrick Rose says PED's a huge issue in the NBA

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by GreatOne1978, May 18, 2011.

  1. tested911

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    Maybe just Maybe ???? :grin:

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    I have been saying this for a while - the NBA is turning a blind eye to this, but I wouldn't be shocked at all if there were at least a couple of prominent all stars who are using them. I never thought Wade, but it would make some sense that he would hit them up after his recent injury history....he HAS gotten noticeably beast-like in the last few years but I always chalked that up to being being much older than the other guys in his class and most guys really fill out in their late 20s....then again, Wade was accused of asking for steroids from a former business partner.

    The guy who I ALWAYS suspected was Lebron(even before people started hating on him as a Heat player). Even as an 18 yr old kid, Lebron was literally the biggest, strongest, fastest 18yr old ever regardless of sport. I mean he's such an anomaly that in the entire history of sports no one has ever even approached being the type of athlete he is...and when I look at photos of him or his supposed Dad, I don't see how such an athletic freak came from that. I mean Lebron could have played NFL as an 18yr old - what 18yr old is able to do that? But if he has been taking roids for a while, it would explain some things - the combination of being a genetic freak AND steroids would seem to make a physically unstoppable player like Lebron.
     
  3. acsorelle4

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    Noah is a PED.

    Dwight is fairly proportional, except for his tiny peanut shaped head. Oh well, can't have it all.
     
  4. glimmertwins

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    Could be, but his proportions don't look excessive to his frame for a professional athlete. Yes, he has huge arms and legs, but your suppose to if your 7'6".
     
  5. BigBenito

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    At least people aren't pulling out the 'steroids don't help basketball players' card. I expect a lot of NFL and NBA players use PEDs. Why would baseball be the exception?
     
  6. SamFisher

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    Because basketball is more of an endurance sport rather than a power sport, and bulging muscles will often hinder as much as help. That's simply the truth.
     
  7. emjohn

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    I'm fully convinced there are a couple of centers (and forwards) that were fed an HGH diet before they even got to the pros. When you look at the bigs in the league today and compare them to the bigs of 20 years ago (David Robinson aside), it's pretty curious.



    That said, the NBA is so skill-driven that steroids are a secondary factor in success. Even your bigs have to have lateral quickness, agility, and some basic skill set to get by.

    I think in the NBA the more pertinent PEDs are uppers. I know plenty of locker rooms were fiends for Red Bull when it came out.

    The NFL is easily the worst in terms of steroids/HGH, and they'll make cycling look straight laced if they did drop the hammer with blood testing.
     
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  9. BigBenito

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    I'll be sure to mention that to cyclists.
     
  10. SamFisher

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    Exactly. That's how Kevin Durant can go to the NBA scouting combine, be too weak to do a single bench press, have a paltry vertical, yet be drafted second overall and yet be the best player on the court more often than not as soon as he picks up a basketball.

    ...whose scandals almost entirely (Floyd Landis aside) involve EPO & blood doping & similar.....you know, things that have to do with endurance rather than power.

    Thank you for proving my point, Big Benito. Hope your bigness is all natural.
     
  11. RV6

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    It seems like people don't realize how much muscle growth can really be natural...Wade's change is perfectly within the norm and similar to MJ's, but MJ didn't lift as heavy. Could he still be using? I guess so, but simply looking at physique isn't enough, especially when you take into consideration that most players will gain mass early as they start to get individualized training in the NBA.

    Dwight's all shoulders. People think he's a bodybuilder or something. He's not. Even guys like Malone and Mourning easily have him beat in the muscle department.

    Also, remember PEDs arent just steroids used to get bigger. They include substances that enhance your cardio or muscle endurance, which is what most NBA players would look for. Pain killers are also considered PEDs and we always hear of players trying to play through the pain.

    I'd say there's 2 kinds of players who'd take steroids. Those who have lifted and need more mass than they can get naturally, and those who are skinny, want mass, and are misinformed on how steroid works. They think it's magic, but you still need to put in work. Other guys will know they don't need steroids to put on the 15 pounds they need.
     
  12. BigBenito

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    PEDS aren't all about building massive muscles: sure, they help you build muscles, but losing weight, recovering from injury Seriously, you keep saying 'endurance'... as if using steroids would keep someone from also building endurance?

    Or... are you saying that the PEDS that Flandis used did not give him any advantage? We should start a write-in campaign to get his title returned.


    Dwight is good because he can run up and down the court all day long, not because he can just bulldoze over anyone!


    pro tip: peds can be untraceable.

    (All mcdonalds, yo)
     
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    Errr... I'm not saying that he has juiced, but do you not remember Wade's shoulder injury? That was a pretty damn major injury...
     
  14. SamFisher

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    Landis used HGH for his hip injury, the EPO, which he also used, was for endurance.
     
  15. BigBenito

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    I wonder why he'd use HGH for an injury...
     
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    ...to recover from it. He used EPO/blood doping to compete with the other cyclists (all of whom were also using it) . Do you think NBA players are using EPO/blood doping?
     
  17. OHMSS

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    I would say at least 90% of NBA players are on steroids. It's pretty shocking that anyone would even think they don't use them.
     
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    :rolleyes:
     
  19. RV6

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    why would they use them, in your opinion? I think you may have meant PEDs, not steroids.
     
  20. da_juice

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    Probably used by big guys, or maybe to increase stamina.
     

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