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Nnamdi a perfect fit in Houston

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by rmoreno, May 17, 2011.

  1. javal_lon

    javal_lon Member

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    I'll throw the bank roll at him too... Im saying it may expose a bigger weakness on this team(if its possible)... Think of last year, when people realized Jackson was toast, Quinn didnt get thrown to often.. As soon as we started to shift the defense more to help Jackson, we started then realizing Quinn wasnt **** ...If Aso comes, then yes that side of the field wont get abused as often.... But the other side becomes target practice...It may help not to be a historically awful defense, but it still isnt gonna guarantee an improved pass defense as a whole...Am I making sense??? probably not...but you get the point
     
  2. javal_lon

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    didnt say I wouldnt want him...But he isnt the definite answer to our problems either...He cant play FS,SS, and the other CB position all at once...
     
  3. msn

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    then let's not bring in anybody. after all, none of them can play all the positions of need at once.
     
  4. moestavern19

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    He'd be utilized differently in Houston than in Oakland where he shut down his side of the field. The Raiders are one of the few teams that play strictly bump and run, man to man coverages.

    My guess is Nnamdi will want to go somewhere where he can consistently shadow the other team's #1 target, move around before the snap, and come on the occasional blitz. He's also a very good tackler in the running game.

    Oh yeah, he didn't allow a touchdown pass last season.

    You're severely underestimating the effect that one guy can have on a defense when that one guy can completely neutralize the other team's best WR.

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  5. javal_lon

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    when you say it like that it makes me sound well "stupid"...But stupid is as stupid says(or somethin like that).....But while we're on the subject..... When the defense doesnt improve significantly due to the big "ASO" signing, folks will crucify him for not being able to play all the positions needed to improve...And I dont want that on my conscious!!!
     
  6. javal_lon

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    Moes, I most defintely dont undervalue one man's importance to a team...But unfortunately we're talking about this team...where there are 4 questionable below-par secondary positions to restore...Two outta four aint bad(assuming he shuts down one-half of the field) ....Im just not as optimistic as the next guy .... People overvalue having a good pass defense with a great front 7...Well last year showed me something different....Our front 7 was ok not great... That secondary though was legendary!!!
     
  7. msn

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    well, we can't have fan stupidity on our conscious, or our conscience, for that matter. better not bring in any FA. just to be safe.
     
  8. MadMax

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    it just seems like grabbing the best CB in the league MIGHT be a step in the right direction.
     
  9. msn

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    but what do we do when he gets crucified for not covering all four secondary positions simultaneously? can you carry that on your conscious? not me. let's just remain comatose. :)
     
  10. javal_lon

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    you steady trying to antagonize an antagonizer... loosen the bra strap and just flow with it mane or womane/ or whatever you are
     
  11. javal_lon

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    it is .... Folks wont be happy though if it doesnt pan out.... If it does , I'll polish MSN's high heels for him
     
  12. BMoney

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    Man, the Texans turned a lot of you into miserable b****es.
     
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  13. msn

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    haha it's all in good fun mane.
     
  14. moestavern19

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    You presented a very weak argument and now you are facing the subsequent snarkiness in response.


    Look at the Raiders for instance, Asomugha has been the mainstay in their secondary for the better part of this decade and their pass defense has been consistently great in terms of yards allowed. Nobody else in that secondary is that amazing. They've had UH's own Stanford Routt opposite Nnamdi for the past 3 years, and only last year did he actually play well (So of course they overpaid him). None of the safeties are that great. Michael Huff was atrocious his first 3-4 years in the league, now he's probably just in the top 20 in the league, but for a while the Raiders had very little talent surrounding him in the secondary.

    Maybe this will help put Asomugha's presence in perspective. There are only a few "true shutdown" corners in NFL history like this. Deion was one of them, after a while nobody ever threw on his side. Rod Woodson in his prime was another. Revis is on his way, already is the top "cover" CB in the league in terms of interceptions. Asomugha doesn't get many picks because A.) teams don't throw it at him, B.) When they do, the QB usually has to try and put the ball in a spot he won't be able to get to (and neither will the WR), and C.) his technique is among the best ever in that he truly shadows a guy without really any concern for where the ball is, only for where he needs to be to keep between his guy and the ball.

    Its about respect. Peyton Manning won't even try Asomugha, the only guy who will go at him every once in a while is Rivers. Now for Manning that isn't a problem because he prefers to dissect defenses with slot receivers and Dallas Clark, but if you've got Asomugha blanketing Reggie Wayne, that means you know you can spy Clark, double Collie or watch Garcon deep. It instantly makes your secondary that much more flexible.
     
  15. MadMax

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    if we do nothing, folks won't be real thrilled with that either.
     
  16. DonkeyMagic

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    repped. They are broken and battered
     
  17. DonkeyMagic

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    i can't believe some of you guys are actually trying to talk reason to javal. His arguments are freaking clown shoes
     
  18. SWTsig

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    wow, this is a stupid post. if he only covers one side well, we're automatically 50% better than we were last year. short of signing two shut down corners, what do you suggest?
     
  19. ima_drummer2k

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    Yeah, we shouldn't have a great CB because he will make the other CB's look bad. It's much better to have everyone suck equally, that way no one gets picked on. You can't argue with such sound logic.

    Anyway, this is all totally moot since the Texans aren't even going to consider making Nnamdi an offer. We're going with the guys we got.

    We've just got to continue to get better.
     
  20. liamrock

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    Just as I suspected -

    The Houston Chronicle's Richard Justice passes along word that free agent Nnamdi Asomugha "doesn't want any part" of the Texans.
    Justice doesn't pass along any specifics, but it's widely believed that Asomugha's top priorities include playing for a contender. The Texans have that potential, but they're certainly not there yet. We've yet to find anyone covering the Texans who believes owner Bob McNair would be willing to make the high-dollar investment in Asomugha, regardless.
    Related: TexansSource: Houston Chronicle May 17, 4:28 PM


    Everyone wants to blame McNair, but if the guy doesnt want any part of the Texans, there's not much he can do.
     

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