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Eastern Conference Finals (Playoff): Chicago Bulls(1) Vs Miami Heats(2)

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by Roxs-Redemption, May 12, 2011.

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Who will win this series?

  1. Bulls in 4

    5 vote(s)
    2.3%
  2. Bulls in 5

    10 vote(s)
    4.5%
  3. Bulls in 6

    45 vote(s)
    20.3%
  4. Bulls in 7

    54 vote(s)
    24.3%
  5. Heats in 4

    2 vote(s)
    0.9%
  6. Heats in 5

    14 vote(s)
    6.3%
  7. Heats in 6

    72 vote(s)
    32.4%
  8. Heats in 7

    20 vote(s)
    9.0%
  1. t_mac1

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    i read that he meant if the team was completely healthy. if miller and haslem are healthy, they'd be one of the deepest teams in the L and it would be unfair.
     
  2. Keyser Soze

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    What's up with the overrating of Miller that guy is pure garbage.
     
  3. vlaurelio

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    but true depth should mean being able to weather injuries

    just look at the bulls - their starting pf and center missed a combined 50 games yet they still managed to be 1st seed

    and it's not even about the bench being talented but being ready and give their best whenever called.. see kurt thomas' performance during that 50 game stretch..
     
  4. t_mac1

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    here are some more ridiculous stats in game 1: 53 points of the bulls came from offensive rebounds or turnovers. FIFTY-THREE POINTS. that's over HALF of the bulls' offense.

    it's obvious that this team cannot score on the heat, even if rose shot over 50% and made all of his jumpers. and they were shooting lights out from 3s.

    bulls average 94ppg in the playoffs, they scored 103 pts in game 1
    bulls shoot 43% in the playoffs, and they shot that amount (but their first shot attempt % is 37%)
    their 3pt % is 34%, they shot 50% in game 1 (but that may not change as every heat opponent is shooting lights out in the playoffs - their opponents is shooting 43% :eek:)

    the heat know why they lost that game. i would be concern if they say "damn how did we lose?". clean up the boards and the game and series is there. it's just that simple. keep the rebound disadvantage within 5 (on both overall and offensive). if the bulls only have 4-5 more shot attempts, they can't score enough to beat the heat. but 12-15+, not looking good.

    the guy basically has all of his fingers injured. give the guy a break. he can't shoot and that's his main attribute.

    when he's healthy next year, he'll earn his paycheck. but the heat know this for 80% of the year so that's no excuse.
     
  5. t_mac1

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    the heat did weather injuries didn't they? they won 58 games as was the #2 seed in the east. they lost a starter in haslem and a big man in miller.

    their depth is that their 2 best players are the 2 best players in the world. they do EVERYTHING and that should be considered "depth" to me. they can cover up a lot of things.

    yes i do agree with you the bulls have MAD DEPTH: i said they have the best bench in the L. that's why it's baffling to me that they say rose is their main reason why they are the best team in the L. it's not. and you saw that in game 1. they beat the heat w/ their best attribute: rebound.

    and didn't i predict before game 1 that for the bulls to win, they need a +8 in rebounding?
     
  6. vlaurelio

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    eureaka! it's the bulls strenght in boxing out, rebounding, and 2nd chance points..

    it's not that simple.. you think the whole heat coaching staff and players didn't know how important to rebound and box out against the bulls even before the series?

    they may try having everyone including james and wade go for the defensive rebound after every bulls shot but they will sacrifice their fastbreaking abilities to get easy points..
     
  7. vlaurelio

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    2 best players in the league + anybody <> depth

    unless those 2 are inhuman and can play all 48 minutes at the same high intensity from start to finish without any rest
     
  8. t_mac1

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    yes, that is the bulls' strength. they are #1.

    but the heat are #3 in rebounding. they are also a great rebounding team. and they never had size. so i'm sure they must have done something right to achieve that ranking when they have been one of the smallest teams all season.

    in the playoffs, chicago is #2 in rebounding and miami is #4.

    chicago gets 44 boards a game, outrebounding their opponents by 7
    miami gets 42 boards a game, outrebounding their opponents by 4.5 a game

    so again, the bulls are better at rebounding, but the heat are no slouch. i expect them to lose the boards before the series started.

    but i didn't expect them to lose in blowout fashion. law of averages will come back as the heat are also a pretty damn good rebounding team.


    have you seen shaq and kobe in year 2 and 3 of their 3peat? they both together averaged 55+ points, 15+ boards, and played 40+ minutes. their only known bench player was horry, unless you consider slava medvedenko a legit bench player.

    so yea, lebron/wade have been inhuman all playoffs except for 2 games; and they got blown out in those 2 games.
     
  9. vlaurelio

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    so now question is can james and wade have 4 inhumanly tremendous games

    before the whole bulls team have 3 games with +8 in rebounds over the heat
     
  10. SacTown

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    They aren't losing. They lost one game. They also lost one game to the Celtics. They lost 1 game people. To the bulls on the road. It's not a big deal.
     
  11. t_mac1

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    yes, wade and james can do that. they will be human once ever 5 or 6 games or something. so the bulls will win another game.

    the heat's reg season was up and down. like i said, the bulls beat them in a stretch where they also lost to the knicks, blazers, orlando, and got blown out by spurs by 30 points outside of the first game where lebron didn't play. i really don't use those reg season b/c of the circumstances the heat player under.

    there is no excuse for the heat now. they just gotta play better w/ more effort.

    EDIT: and people always get crazy after losses. after the hawks beat the bulls in game 1, it was that rose had to do everything and a few pick the hawks to win the freakin' series. or how the heat lost game 3 vs the celts and many said the celtics would come back and win.

    people just relax. the better team wins over 7 games (unless you have chemistry issues ala lakers in 04).
     
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    and just read that bron will be on rose a lot more in game 2. he was not even one rose one bit in game 1, disappointing.
     
  13. vlaurelio

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    when you mean team you mean 5-man or 10-man team?
     
  14. vlaurelio

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    he'll be tired just like wade running after drose
     
  15. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    He will get smoked to the basket and fouled. expect that experiment to fail.
     
  16. t_mac1

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    there are 30 teams in the NBA.

    since when is this a 1-on-1 game? it will mean rose will be taking MORE jumpers, but now with longer arms in his face instead of chalmers/bibby. they'll still double him my friend off of that pick and roll.


    wade was tired from tip-off. the guy missed TWO wide open dunks that even my grandma would make.
     
  17. goodbug

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    Liar, I didn't even show up in this thread before you trolled this thread with my ID in it.

     
  18. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    first time they've lost the first game of a series in these playoffs:cool:
     
  19. t_mac1

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    there's a first for everything. the bulls lost to the hawks in game 1 too. thunder lost to memphis in game 1 too.

    and i heard chatter about bulls/thunder losing those series too.

    it's the playoffs. you have multiple days off in between games so you can have these interesting chatter.
     
  20. A_3PO

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    Hope this is true. Want to see it badly.
     

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