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Third Offense, 5-Game Suspension, ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by BleedRocketsRed, May 10, 2011.

  1. durvasa

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    What Bynum did was far more dangerous. Its fortunate that Barea wasn't seriously injured, because he very easily could have been.

    I'm not going to let a repeat offender off the hook just because he was fortunate to not have seriously injured a player he recklessly attacked on the basketball floor.

    Also, Bynum misses handfuls of games routinely like its nothing. He delayed his surgery last summer, apparently not caring that it would cause him to miss games in the regular season. Missing a handful of games obviously isn't a big deal to him. I think that should be factored in as well. Maybe instead of 5 games, you have to suspend him for 10-20 games for the message to sink in.
     
  2. krnxsnoopy

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    ^^^^ I think Bynum cares since he won't get to just chill at home and collect his paycheck this time. He's losing out on a good chunk of change. But he deserves it. :cool:
     
  3. LongTimeFan

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    That is just flat out ridiculous. You have got to be kidding me? That is some serious vendetta you have going on here. I'm shocked that someone of your intelligence could come up with such poor reasoning. It's like you're angry at Bynum and trying to find new, creative ways to punish him further.

    "Well, Bynum gets hurt a lot, so he probably doesn't appreciate what missing a game is like, so we should suspend him for 4x the amount so he'll really know!"

    I'm sure the players would LOVE you, Commish. Yao Ming better not ever get suspended or you'll have to kick him out of the NBA for the message to sink in since he never plays as is.
     
  4. Xerobull

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    They don't want to give their opponent anything to grab on to. Pretty common in street fights with experienced fighters. I used to fight. A lot. The tougher you are, the more clothes you would rip off. I would routinely get down to just my bikini briefs and sock suspenders. Here's a pic of me in tighty-whities putting a submission hold on some drunk frat boys hand. Demolished that ****.

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  5. FullMetal Sage

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    If it was a Rocket player you guys would scream bloody murder that the NBA hates the Rockets, and want said player off the team for being a thug.
     
  6. durvasa

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    I believe in strict disciplining of players who show a history of behaving like reckless hotheads. And, yes, I'm angry at any players that ruin the game with plays like that. It does piss me off.

    The punishment should mean something. 2 to 5 games is not enough of a jump when a player is making the same reckless play in the span of hardly a few months. When the offense is repeated in such a short span, that demonstrates a total lack of respect for opponents and the league. That shouldn't be tolerated.
     
  7. vinsensual

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    It's not because JJ's smaller and Bynum's bigger. It's because it's a pointy ass elbow being driven by a powerhouse into the exposed ribs of a player who's also going full speed through the air. Size doesn't have anything to do with it, because it's all concentrated into that little dagger of a body part that can and has hospitalized a player one season ago.

    And the punishments don't phase Bynum because he doesn't do anything to show remorse or reform his behavior. The penalty should be exponentially higher after the first offense. And less than 1/13th of his salary is nothing. It's the same thing with prisons. There are some offenders where jailtime isn't a proper deterrent.
     
  8. greenhippos

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    hahahaha +1
     
  9. Zboy

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    For a repeat offender, 5 games is simply not enough.

    It should have been a 15-20 games without pay at minimum, to send him and anyone else in the league thinking of doing the same a message. Bynum will gladly do it again if he keeps getting away with it. Soon, others will be following him, knowing that they too can get away with it.

    Next time Bynum pulls this stunt and leaves someone on the floor paralyzed, it will be on the league.
     
  10. crossover

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    @ the examples from many years ago in the NBA

    There is a large difference between expected and unexpected dirty/physical plays imo. The most dangerous are the unexpected ones where you aren't braced or tensed for impact. League is much softer now and people don't drive and attack the rim expecting to get bruised like they did in previous eras.
     
  11. showtang043

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    yea I agree, I think the people outraged are more in this generation or the lebron generation. I remember seeing the media make a big deal about celtics playing rough on lebron and comparing it to jordan rules and pistons. I have to wonder if they ever saw that series, these were ticky tack regular playoff fouls in the 90s against lebron

    as for bynum, that was a flagrant foul, thats it, he tried to hurt him, it was a flagrant, get tossed out, in the 90s you get used to it in the playoffs and it wasn't something that is remembered. I thought 5 games and almost a million was right there for a push if not excessive, the game has changed when euroleague is more physical than the nba even though the players are bigger and stronger
     
  12. roflmcwaffles

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    The biggest problem with this argument here is simply disagreeing on what Bynum did.

    People who thing the penalty is enough thinks the play was "physical" basketball, and the people who don't think it is enough think the play was "dirty."

    I LOVED 90s basketball. I watched as many games as I could possibly watch, I just loved watching the way the game flowed and how awesome it was to watch. I would tell anyone basketball today does not compare at all to it, and that is because of ticky tack fouls ruining the game flow for no reason.

    The Magic Johnson play whether or not you believe the play was dirty or physical there, it was his 1st offense and just like when Bynum did it the first time and Gerald Wallace had a collapsed lung on that incident, the NBA looked the other way and no suspension was given. Which I find completely understandable, could have been an accident, and that happens.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbcjL7AVxMA

    When Bynum did it the 2nd time to Beasley, he had 0 remorse about it, absolutely none, and he injured Beasley there too.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VU7RiLERJ-Y

    On the 3rd time, Bynum stated he believes he does not deserve suspension any suspension, even though he said sorry, which clearly indicates he still has no remorse, he was just saying sorry to try to avoid suspension.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBfvmJIxwPQ

    Watch each and every one of these, EVERY SINGLE ONE is a thug move, which yes makes it DIRTY. Notice also how he waits till they reach the peak of their jump and then shoves the by throwing his entire body weight into his forearm to make them get hurt. They all look completely identical and Bynum has full intention to try to hurt another NBA player.

    It is absolutely idiotic he didn't get a bigger suspension. I would've given him 50 games. If Ron Artest deserved that for running into the stands on his 1st offense when he was provoked, Bynum on his 3rd offense WITHOUT being provoked and with the possibility of harming an individual a LOT more than punching someone, deserves at least that much of a suspension.

    If Bynum wanted to send a message go ahead and push someone down WHILE THEY ARE ON THE GROUND, pick a small fight on the court, no big deal. At least if you do this their career isn't in jeopardy.

    Any of these 3 incidences could've very easily ended their career, if they landed a little more awkwardly and broke their hip bone, their career was DONE.
     
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  13. josephnicks

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    lol i dont remember seeing the cameraman grabbing his face after the kick... he was grabbing somewhere else though..
     
  14. il italiano

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    idk if people realize its a 5 game suspension without pay. i dont know bynum's exact salary but he comes close to losing one million dollars. i think thats a hefty enough fine for what he did.
     
  15. vinsensual

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    His salary is almost 14M. Splish.
     
  16. t_mac1

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    even former NBA players (kenny and charles) thought the suspension/fine was ridiculously hefty. and both of them thought that play was dirty as hell and had no place at that point in time during a game.

    for people to suggest 10-20 games is outrageous.
     
  17. heypartner

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    What sucks is his jersey that he tossed is going for $18k on eBay right now.

    What? You all thought he was dumb? Of course you toss your jersey to your buddie to sell on eBay.

    duh
     
  18. pmac

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    So you guys watched this video where Magic elbows Isiah Thomas in the chin and it's 'not even close' to Bynum elbowing a player in the side??

    Whether or not Barea fell to the ground is irrelevant. All players fall to the ground nowadays even if they've never been touched. If that same Magic/Thomas play had happened today Thomas would have probably layed down in the paint face down for a few minutes.

    I also fail to see how essentially a $700,000 fine is not a hefty enough penalty.
     
  19. BleedRocketsRed

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    He did the same thing to Gerald Wallace who went to the hospital after with a collapsed lung.

    And that didn't stop him, he did the same thing to Beasley.

    This is the third offense. It is clearly intent to injure (he is going for the lungs/ribs area, his intent is to end a career, could even potentially end a life).

    So yes, I do not think that a 5-game suspension is enough for something like this. It is merely a slap on the wrist for Bynum. He should get at least 20.
     
  20. BleedRocketsRed

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    This is the first time he did it on a big stage.

    Maybe Kenny/Charles are not aware of the previous offenses.
     

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