Slow down there. OBL was not an elected official. Hell, he wasn't even a citizen of Pakistan. What you're describing here is much different. If there was an American that committed a terrorist attack in China killing thousands, and the Chinese came in and killed him at his ranch in Texas....i could care less.
"I mourn the loss of thousands of precious lives, but I will not rejoice in the death of one, not even an enemy. Returning hate for hate multiplies hate, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate, only love can do that."
You don't have to put stock in it if you don't want to, but I think the head of the Senate intel committee is American first and Democrat second. She isn't going to lie to bolster her party especially when it could backfire later. That's just how I see it. People who are the head of the intel committee and see all the intelligence on a day to day basis are as close as it gets to what's going on. I think she more than most other members of congress is in a position to put it into perspective as far as being an American first and Democrat second. I guess because it "seems right" for you guys to believe one thing it's easy for you to find a reason to doubt her as she does her duty.
Look to each his own, I am joyful that Osama was killed, the world is a better place. The same way I would be happy if I was alive back in WW2 and Hitler was killed. If there are clearly horrible people that get killed, I personally feel pretty danged good about that. DD
For every Bin Laden, there are a million wanna-be's.......But you cant go around daily worrying about stuff like this... Lets celebrate the people who are in the trenches enabling us to watch it in our safe environment on TV....
.......................really? I'm really, really tired of liberals becoming sanctimonious here. I mean, you guys had to have Obama show that you gave a crap about national security, that you weren't just intellectuals who look down on the common man - and then in the aftermath of a great victory in this war, it goes back to patronization. I also love people who are acting that because there wasn't some CoD style firefight to finish off Bin Laden, that this is now a bad thing. The British assassinated Hitler's lieutenants. What were we supposed to do? And if we fought a war with China, I'm fairly the China would be looking for ways to take out the President because well, it is war. They aren't going to go "Oh hey, the President was really nice to Bin Laden, so we shouldn't try to kill him." I expect that in a war. And we were in a war against Bin Laden.
to be fair I think only a handful of people here and the country have a problem with the assasination of OBL heck even McCain was against Obama going to Pakistan on his own (without Pakistan's permission) and assasinating OBL
I'm glad you brought this up since I don't think I would feel better if the compound had been destroyed using a Hellfire missile as that would've led to the deaths of the women and children who lived there. i brought the same thing up when Zarqawi was killed in a drone strike but also some women and children were killed with him. I give Obama credit for ordering a much riskier special forces mission that very likely reduced the number of civilians may have been killed. That doesn't make me feel good about it.
will OBL and his bodyguards being armed and fill one of the seals and injure a couple more before they all get shot and killed make you feel better and celebrate about it?
Ideally yes I would've liked to see him captured, face trial and have to face his victims. Practically I doubt there was much possibility of that happening. As I said before I don't disagree with the mission or how it went down. I am uneasy though with celebrating it.
you have said don't feel good and uneasy about celebrating because an unarmed OBL was assasinated right? so would an armed OBL being assasinated be anything better or something to celebrate about?
Its actually not OBL. From reading the description of what happened the part that I found particularly chilling was about shooting OBL's son. It sounds like they shot the boy on sight as he was coming down the stairs. To answer your question directly I would feel better if they shot an armed OBL. I've never had to shoot anyone but I get the feeling I would be more comfortable shooting someone who is armed than unarmed. Also as I said earlier I wasn't there and if I was I might have done exactly the same thing. As far as celebrating I didn't feel like celebrating when the original reports were that OBL died with a gun in his hand shooting. As I wrote at the beginning of this thread my thoughts were on all the people who died on 9/11 and since.
Since I think I share similar sentiments, I will also comment. I don't think any assassination should be celebrated. The celebration should come if it allows hundreds of thousands of Americans to return to their families. Or if it turns out that it leads to less terrorist acts world-wide, that's worth celebrating. In trying to bring OBL to justice, I would prefer that he be captured alive if he did not offer resistance rather than him being shot down. If he was resisting and posing a legitimate threat to our forces, then if he needed to be shot to prevent casualties on our end so be it.
Are you not entertained? http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/gal...mpound?intcmp=239#/?picture=374256184&index=1
Word here. I am sickened by the pep-rally mentality of so many by-standers. This was not a cold-blooded killing; this was war. OBL is dead. Good. OBL was unarmed... but was he making a move towards a weapon? If he refused to surrender, he dies. I wish the US would get over the fascination for this. It was an ugly victory not a glorious victory. It took too long and too much money to get to this point so it's kind of a hollow victory.
Pep-rally in what way? For who? This was a cold-blooded killing, and not a war. You can't fight a war on an idea or belief, or a network of likeminded individuals, and definitely not one man. This was an assassination of a dangerous criminal and national threat. And I'm perfectly fine with it.
I think going in and killing him (armed or unarmed) was the correct decision, that doesn't mean it's something to be celebrated.
based on pictures he's not a boy anymore.. he may be running down charging and/or screaming and warning the others.. first, OBL<>anyone in terms of risk armed anyone>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>unarmed anyone armed world's most wanted and dangerous man>unarmed world's most wanted and dangerous man for sure especially if you have had the same training, same experiences, and same directives as far as know US has nuetralized the leader of AQ who has dared the US to catch him if they can and that is enough reason to be happy and do some celebration
