1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

How Good Could The Rockets Be?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by crash5179, May 4, 2011.

?

How Good Could The Rockets Be?

  1. Western Conference and NBA Championship Contenders

    21 vote(s)
    30.9%
  2. Play-Off fodder and nothing else

    37 vote(s)
    54.4%
  3. About like the last two seasons, no play-offs and the last lottery pick in the draft

    10 vote(s)
    14.7%
  1. crash5179

    crash5179 Member

    Joined:
    Dec 9, 2000
    Messages:
    16,468
    Likes Received:
    1,297
    1. If the Rockets do not make any major trades

    2. Yao resigns and gets back to his efficient and effective self by mid season with no injuries at 25 plus minutes a game

    3. Rockets sign Dalembert

    4. Remaining roster has no significant injuries and no drop in performance from this past season

    Regardless of who we draft I think the Rockets would be contenders by next season’s end. Much like Memphis has had a great run in the play-offs so far I think the Rockets could be better. With a healthy Yao Ming along with Samuel Dalembert and Chuck Hayes the Center spot would go from a liability to a strength.

    By Mid-Season our line-up could be:

    C – Yao Ming, Samuel Dalembert, Chuck Hayes
    PF – Luis Scola, Patrick Patterson, Jordan Hill
    SF – Chase Budinger, Terrence Williams
    SG – Kevin Martin, Courtney Lee
    PG – Kyle Lowry, Goran Dracic

    That line-up would be very very strong providing Yao is healthy and close to his former self by mid-season. That line-up does not include Hasheem Thabeet or any draft picks. That line-up IMO could play with Memphis, Dallas, New Orleans, OKC and maybe LAL. That line-up is stacked with offensive and defensive players and opposing teams would find the paint a very unfriendly place to try and get a bucket. I would be especially happy if Pat could overtake Scola in the starting line-up since his outside game and defense would compliment Yao perfectly.
     
  2. iconoclastic

    iconoclastic Member

    Joined:
    Oct 10, 2007
    Messages:
    6,100
    Likes Received:
    422
    The chances of Yao returning to form and staying healthy is about 1%.

    It's like asking how good the Rockets could be if LeBron James demanded a trade to Houston.
     
  3. crash5179

    crash5179 Member

    Joined:
    Dec 9, 2000
    Messages:
    16,468
    Likes Received:
    1,297
    No not at all. There is zero chance LeBron will be dealt to Houston. I believe Houston and Yao will agree on a new contract and we will see if Yao can stay healthy. I think the chance is as good as 50 / 50.
     
  4. LongTimeFan

    LongTimeFan Member

    Joined:
    Oct 6, 2001
    Messages:
    7,757
    Likes Received:
    963
    50/50 that Yao returns, stays healthy, and returns to his old form? :eek:

    I'd give that more of a 5-10% chance.
     
  5. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2008
    Messages:
    47,490
    Likes Received:
    19,594
    Adding Dalembert does NOT make us contenders. No way, No how.

    with Martin and Budinger giving away points on the other end it WILL NOT HAPPEN.
     
  6. RocketMania1991

    Joined:
    Feb 17, 2009
    Messages:
    2,996
    Likes Received:
    124
    50/50 chance Yao stays healthy...............................HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH.

    Yao wasn't healthy last year, wasn't healthy the year before, and wasn't healthy the year before that.

    Get the picture?
     
  7. crash5179

    crash5179 Member

    Joined:
    Dec 9, 2000
    Messages:
    16,468
    Likes Received:
    1,297
    With Dalembert and a healthy Yao be mid-season. The Rockets were a terrific team this season after the trade deadline. With Yao, Chuck, Dalembert and Pat in the post, I'm really not that worried about Bud and Martin on the defensive end.

    With a healthy Yao and Dalembert added to this team I think we are every bit as good as Memphis and can play with anyone.
     
  8. crash5179

    crash5179 Member

    Joined:
    Dec 9, 2000
    Messages:
    16,468
    Likes Received:
    1,297

    Actually he was healthy the year before that for the whole season. He did not break his foot until the play-offs.
     
  9. DiamondDobb

    DiamondDobb Member

    Joined:
    Apr 19, 2011
    Messages:
    53
    Likes Received:
    1
    Man, I gotta say, I'd LOVE to see Yao back healthy, but I'm very dubious about it ever happening. I'd also be crazy pissed if we didn't resign him, then he came back healthy for someone else. IF we had a healthy Yao, we instantly become a better than average team, as it stands, I can't see it happening.
     
  10. New Generation

    Joined:
    Feb 27, 2011
    Messages:
    548
    Likes Received:
    20
    Yao himself (If he stays healthy) can bring up ATLEAST another 5-6 wins. Add everything else, and we're legitimate Conference Finals contenders.
     
  11. RocketMania1991

    Joined:
    Feb 17, 2009
    Messages:
    2,996
    Likes Received:
    124
    Yea, he was ACTUALLY HEALTHY for the whole REGULAR season WOOHOO.

    Then he decides to go down during the most crucial part of the teams season.

    Sorry but I and most others Rockets fans are sick of relying on Yao's body to holdup when its obvious that he is never going to be able to get back to form.

    The Yao Ming we once knew is 100% done and anyone who thinks otherwise is just fooling themselves.

    I personally hope we don't waste a roster spot or $ on an aging and unreliable center who has hardly played basketball in over 2 years.
     
  12. crash5179

    crash5179 Member

    Joined:
    Dec 9, 2000
    Messages:
    16,468
    Likes Received:
    1,297
    Sorry he let you down. :(

    No one is saying rely on Yao completely. I hope we sign Dalembert, keep Chuck and get a Center in the draft we can groom into the next starting center for the team.

    Even with Dalembert (and no Yao) I think we can be just as good or better than Memphis.

    I would definitely resign Yao at the vet minimum if he was willing and then anything we get from him is icing on the cake and does not impede improving our roster.

    BTW, if Yao does come back and have a healthy year it would not be the first time a center with his condition was able to do it. Bill Walton was key contributor for Boston's championship in 86 after years of missed games due to feet issues. Big Z has had many good years since his surgery.
     
  13. TesseracT

    TesseracT Member

    Joined:
    Mar 2, 2008
    Messages:
    6,304
    Likes Received:
    1,325
    There are people that still think we will get a healthy Yao next season? Do you not learn
     
  14. ashishduh

    ashishduh Member

    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2010
    Messages:
    1,980
    Likes Received:
    61
    The Rockets don't need Yao to be healthy to be a 55 win team.
     
  15. crash5179

    crash5179 Member

    Joined:
    Dec 9, 2000
    Messages:
    16,468
    Likes Received:
    1,297

    I don't think the Rockets can sit back and depend on Yao getting healthy and taking over the team. I don't think DM has any plans of putting all of his eggs in the Yao Ming basket.

    However, I do think they would like to resign Yao and see if he can get healthy.

    1. Signing Dalembert ensures we are not dependent on Yao for a center today.
    2. Drafting a Center such as Kanter or Biyombo is trying to ensure we have a quality center for tomorrow.

    If Yao can get healthy enough to be our starting Center by mid-season then we are even better and can challenge anyone going into the play-offs. If Yao does not get healthy then we would still have Dalembert and Chuck and still be a play-off team IMO.
     
  16. thetatomatis

    thetatomatis Member

    Joined:
    May 25, 2010
    Messages:
    5,699
    Likes Received:
    101
    Not very good the current way they are constructed. Maybe on down the line they get better? They have no real assets anyone wants. So they are gonna stay pretty mediocre for a while. Deandre Jordan would be a start. Morey has no juice to give me any confidence in his ability lately to get even a Deandre Jordan frankly.
     
  17. crash5179

    crash5179 Member

    Joined:
    Dec 9, 2000
    Messages:
    16,468
    Likes Received:
    1,297
    Not sure you read the question.

    And besides what team would want Kyle Lowry, Kevin Martin, Courtney Lee, Patrick Patterson, Luis Scola or Chuck Hayes.

    Sheeesh.... what was I thinking :rolleyes:
     
  18. ashishduh

    ashishduh Member

    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2010
    Messages:
    1,980
    Likes Received:
    61
    NO TEAM WANTS OUR SCRUBBIE ASSETS, SUPERSTAR OR BUST.

    -SIGNED CF DERPERS.
     
  19. crash5179

    crash5179 Member

    Joined:
    Dec 9, 2000
    Messages:
    16,468
    Likes Received:
    1,297
    right.... :rolleyes:
     
  20. LongTimeFan

    LongTimeFan Member

    Joined:
    Oct 6, 2001
    Messages:
    7,757
    Likes Received:
    963
    I don't think he read it either. I didn't respond initially because I couldn't get past the idea of Yao returning to normal -- he's disappointed me too many times. :(

    If everything happens as you say, I think we'd be a possible second round team -- depending on the new coach. We'd be relying on Yao/Dalembert to cover Martin and Budinger's terrible defense, which I think would be exploited in the playoffs.

    Memphis is a lot better than people are giving them credit for. They could get even better next year when Gay comes back if they're able to keep everyone.
     

Share This Page

  • About ClutchFans

    Since 1996, ClutchFans has been loud and proud covering the Houston Rockets, helping set an industry standard for team fan sites. The forums have been a home for Houston sports fans as well as basketball fanatics around the globe.

  • Support ClutchFans!

    If you find that ClutchFans is a valuable resource for you, please consider becoming a Supporting Member. Supporting Members can upload photos and attachments directly to their posts, customize their user title and more. Gold Supporters see zero ads!


    Upgrade Now