Justice: DM & Alexander didn't want to keep Adelman, coaching search down to two

Agreed. I don't like the sound of this.

 

Morey/Les clearly felt that we were more than a center away from contention. I think you would find plenty around here that agree with that as well. In the end it was a difference of opinion like RJ said. And when the difference of opinion occurs between employER and emplyEE, obviously it is not on equal footing. The employer will get his way and has every right to, since he owns the place. I really can't blame either side.

I do trust the organization(Morey) more when it comes to judging how far we are from where we need to be, though. Adelman has proven that while he may be a very good coach, his bigger picture judgment can be questionable, at best- not agreeing with trading Alston for Lowry, trading Brooks for anything, suggesting we hang on to Budinger no matter what(bizarre) etc.

 

I'm sure Adelman knows that, too.

The disagreement, it seems, is over whether doing a bunch of Thabeet and Squid-type trades is the best way to get into contention.

 

Very confusing reports from media.

First Adelman is fired over “win now vs. win big.”

Now Morey is trying to make playoffs next season? Why not keep great coach who already has in place great system?

“Les did not want Rick to coach this team. Daryl did not want him to coach this basketball team.” Makes no sense why if goal is to make playoffs next season

Would be nice to hear truth from organization.

 

Has Shaw interviewed? My guess is Shaw or Casey.

I'm all for Dalembert around the 5-6M range. I'm hoping that we don't overpay so he can potentially help us land Howard.

 

TMac instead of Francis that JVG wanted gone?

How soon some forget:

GIVE YAO THE DAMN BALL!!!

Let's not forget that plenty on this bbs were yelling at SF and Cat to throw Yao the ball. ESPN was showing proof of it. It became an NBA topic. It wasn't just JVG and YOFs. SF couldn't play with Yao.

JVG probably wanted MoT gone too, but he needed SF to be traded.

 

This makes no sense.... so someone "leaked" this to Justice?... If he knows the choice is down to two people, then he knows who they are... unless the Rockets did the leak on purpose.

 

My impression is that JVG always had a fondess for McGrady despite his flaws. Even during McGrady's last year with the Rockets, JVG said that if he got healthy/in shape, McGrady would be the 3rd best SG in the league behind Kobe and Wade.

So Francis is the far more likely choice. I don't think JVG often went out of his way to praise Francis.

 

If that's true then I can't blame the organization at all for putting their own needs ahead of Adelman's:

If Rick knew that we were more than a center away from contention, yet still wanted to keep the roster intact and only add a center just to make the playoffs, that means winning a championship is not priority number 1 for him. Rather, he enjoys coaching this bunch(he has stated many times), he likes Houston and would prefer to stay instead of uprooting his family, and would simply prefer to ride off into the sunset in the next couple of years going to battle with a bunch of hard-nosed competitive guys who would ultimately only make the team competitive yet far short of championship caliber.

That is certainly understandable from Rick's perspective. Even admirable. At 65 years old, he is comfortable with these guys, and this situation. He would rather it stay the same, even if that never amounts to a ring.

On the other hand, how could anyone blame the organization for not wanting the same? They have their own priorities and that is winning the whole thing, even if ruffling some feathers or disrupting some comfort zones is what it will take.

That is all of course assuming what you say is true, and Adelman does really know how far we are away.

Not sure where you'd get that from. I doubt Adelman cares about Squid-type trades since we gave up a future draft pick for him. As for Thabeet, I highly doubt that will be a trend we would be following up on. It was due to Battier's specific contractual situation that we had to get something for him. Since we don't have anymore 30+ year olds on expiring deals, Adelman wouldn't have to worry about that either.

I think it is exactly what it is. Either Adelman was oblivious to what we needed to contend, or he was simple content with not contending. Either way, it seems it was the right decision to let him go.

 

That is so untrue. Mcgrady to JvG = K.Mart to Aldeman

JVG loved Mcgrady to the fullest, sort of like a father/son relationship. Like I know you can do more(defensively) but i still love you know matter what.

You guys forget, McGrady was everything to this team, Coach knew it, Yao knew it. You are Right he did give up in that series, but honestly you cant blame him. His team sucked. everyone but Yao was pretty much garbage. No one could create, they would fumble the crisp passes from Mcgrady. Miss open shots. He put it all on him, and it was literally all on him. If only Chuck was as good as he is now back then, it would have been a totally different story.

 

those are my thoughts it had to be Steve

 

I actually like that idea. Its a great offensive system. Just add a solid defensive center and upgrade the three. Adding a superstar would be perfect, but I dont see that happening.

 

exactly, it doesn't make sense. Rebuild? Retool? "This team will be in playoff contention next year." None of it makes sense.

Sorry but morey and the organization are just playing politicians at this point.

Its sad to have seen them make such a dumb move.

 

Yes...but remember according to Morey's numbers a coach can have a five game impact. What if our new coach (and our roster's adjustment to a new coach/game plan) potentially costs us those five games?

The two sort of nullify each other seemingly (acquiring Dalembert but utilizing a new coach that may have never been a head coach before); four wins with Dalembert minus up to five games due to coaching.....

 

Definitely some mixed signals.

So they know they don't have enough to contend, and are willing to take risks and make changes, but still want to "win now". Assuming Morey isn't just blowing smoke up Justice's ass, and we can take what he says at face value, it sounds like more "Landry for Martin" type deals is what they are aiming for, rather than rebuilding full monty.

While we can get incrementally better that way, I believe the gap between us and contenders is such a divide that only a franchise level player can fill the void. And LTF I know you can agree that going through the draft is the best way to acquire said player.

While I believe Morey does understand what is needed to contend, I am skeptical of his methods of getting there, if he indeed insists on trying to keep trading for that superstar. It isn't impossible, but certainly the "hard way". I don't really agree but give him the benefit of the doubt until proven otherwise.

 

Yes, exactly. I do not like Morey again, he is dishonest.

If the goal really is to win now (make playoffs next season) why risk step back with new coach, new system? Also very silly to plug Dalembert into computer and come up with result of four more wins without taking into account these changes. I guess since Morey thinks coaching is overrated he can do this.

Adelman would have liked this plan to add shotblocking center to try to make playoffs next season. Being on different pages with the plan was obviously not the issue here. Very sad indeed.

 

If Rockets are going to announce their new coach within the next week then it's probably not Dwane Casey.

 

I think potentially adding a Dalembert type is only one move in a myriad of changes the organization is looking to make. Otherwise, Adelman would not have had any problems with "roster turnover".

 

I'm pretty sure Justice was referring to when JVG was let go when his contract was up and to a player that was on the roster at that time. That would not include MoT and Francis, both of whom were not JVG players. But at the time they were removed, JVG still had sway concerning player movement with the front office. The more likely scenario is at the end of his contract he advised Les/Morey that they needed to trade McGrady and that might not have set well with Les since they had traded away Franchise to bring in McGrady with JVG's blessing.

 

Yeah, I think Morey's said a few times since the Adelaman fiasco that the organization needs to make several more moves to get to where they want to be. I had hoped that meant rebuilding, but this third-party hearsay about making the playoffs has me worried.

I'm sold on the mystery player being Steve Francis. Good work, BBS.