Yes both NY and Minn who are #1 and 2 in pace are not running teams. They are among the worst teams in the league in fast break points, and % of points via fast break. The Knicks have one of the top half court efficiencies in the league as well, this is why they don't run. We saw how terrible they looked against Boston when Boston upped the pace. And that's BOSTON. And I did a quick regression of pace vs fast breaking and defensive efficiency and it turns out pace is more closely related to bad defense than fast breaking. (.42 vs .35 correlation for those who care) And no this discussion isn't about trying to become a contender. It's purpose is to evaluate where we are right now and this discussion specifically is to show how ridiculous your statement was about the Rockets having a bad half court offense when in reality they have one of the best. I've shown all of your indicators of "bad half court offense" to be incorrect.
Yeah it's not like every other commentator said during the Boston series "yeah the Knicks need to slow it down, they aren't a running team". And again, this was against BOSTON, the antithesis of a running team. I'm sorry you correlate high scoring teams with running teams without even watching the teams play but your flawed opinion isn't reality. I should have just not responded to anyone who thinks this beautiful half court offense that the Rockets run is "bad".
no commentator said that. now you're just making things up. even then, the knicks lost the first 3 games with a pace lower than their average all season (lost 2 games wth a pace in the 80s), so that doesn't fit what you're saying since boston slowed their pace down instead of upped it like you said. playin in a pac of the
knicks average season pace: 95.6 game 1 pace: 83.3 game 2 pace: 88.1 game 3 pace: 92.5 game 4 pace: 97.1 average pace of series: 90.25 so how exactly the the celtics "up" the knicks pace in the playoffs when t clearly shows that the pace was much slower than what the knicks ran all season?
Of course the pace is lower than their season average, they're playing the best defensive team in the league over the last 4 years. That doesn't mean that Rondo didn't score 15 fast break points in one quarter all by himself, prompting announcers to say that. And I wasn't even talking about the "slow the pace down" I was mostly pointing out that people like Hubie Brown who have forgot more basketball than you'll ever know are simply restating facts that I posted earlier, the Knicks don't run. I'm not even sure what the debate is anymore, I'm stating indisputable facts like the top 2 pace teams in the league are statistically among the worst fast breaking teams...and you're stating...
show me where hubie brown said that. you also just said boston upped their pace. stats show they didn't. you're wrong. where is the indisputable facts when you're going by he said she said while i posted factual evidence to prove that boston did not "up the pace" like you said. rondo got fast break points because their transition defense was terrible. that has nothing to do with their pace. the knicks took bad shots which lead to easy transition buckets. and whats even more hilarious is the fact what you use transition buckets as the end all be all to running teams. memphis is a top 5 team in transition buckets yet play in a below average pace. i guess they are a running team too lol
When I say that Boston upped the pace I'm not talking about the garbage pace statistic that I've already proven is a meaningless stat. I'm talking about the fact that they scored more fast break points in a quarter than they average for a game. And WTF are you talking about with your last point. There are exactly two classifications for offense: fast break (aka transition) offense and half court offense. There is no magical third category. If you add up a team's transition points and half court points then omg you get their total points (excluding technical fouls). And yes Memphis is a running team. Without their transition game they're not even making the playoffs.
so because boston scored a lot of points in transition for one quarter that proves that boston was running for the entire series? lmao transition buckets are not solely represented by pace or "running'. you have had half-court teams that play at below average paces that get transition buckets from defense, turnovers, and rebounds.
Aren't we exactly in the middle of the pack? Watching these superstars take over games, we don't have anybody to match or slow them down.
