well we can't do much more, you know. We are broke and only have money for the military. Must have been a bummer that actual soldiers paid wages had to get Bin Laden. Drones are so much more profitable to the miltary industrial complex.
...............................geez. As my best friend observed in light of this sentiment, "Us intellectuals are all about the common man. Until we think about the opinions of the common man, and then they can go f themselves because they didn't go to the school and they're not as smart as we are."
Justice. Vengeance. Think about it. A lot of people in the military and in the US wanted this. To kill OBL.
Of course we all want to feel like the last 10 years of fighting actually meant something/produced results. That plays a part in celebrating this I'm sure, particularly for the military.
Based on everything the Muslim posters in this forum have said, the Islam he believed in - that of violence, terror and hate - is not true Islam. So I think calling him a "true believer" (which has a positive connotation) and describing him like a John Wayne - like hero that went down guns blazing and fearless is awkward and misguided. I am sure he was a fanatical believer in whatever he believed in that was his brand of what he thought to be Islam, but I think most people here have always said (and rightly so, I think) that what he believed in was not what they or a reasonable Muslim or non-Muslim would consider true Islam. Can we agree on that last sentence?
Perhaps, I don't suppose it's worth much to argue about something so subjective. My rationale for posting the article (and this is also directed at Kojirou's reply) was not to lament the reaction, but to instead urge a little bit of caution, decency, and introspection as to where we proceed from here - which is what I took from Greenwald's article.
Well taken. I understand both his, and your, apprehension. As for myself, I'm looking on the bright side, I see this as more of an opportunity to finally fix this mess we've gotten ourselves into.
I hear Osama sustained a gun shot wound to the side of the head. I got a feeling he took the cowards way out.
Doubtful, if he killed himself then he doesn't get his "grand reward." Dude caught two shells above his left eye, as I understand it.
Have we ever taken account that he isn't a radical Islamisist... he's just insane and using extremist Islam as a front to kill people?
I just want pictures. I WANT PICTURES today!! The more I hear about the mission and the level of security I doubt we see any books about the event from anyone who was in that room for at least 10 years
I'm hoping the government doesn't use the public's good feelings as an excuse to double down (lost counts on the previous double downs) on the violence and interventions. A person can dream.
Oh god, not this again.... My only statement regarding this: Religious texts which are written poorly as to be interpreted as calls for violence are a contributing source to this problem, the same as lack of education, poverty, oppression, abuse, etc. Perhaps if these books were written by lawyers then we wouldn't have to deal with this interpretation problem. But alas, they were not. And until the day comes when we develop or adopt a new belief system (or none at all) that isn't based on these flawed, ambiguous scriptures, we will forever see violence in the name of god(s). Violent psychopaths (the inevitable, inexplicable, random, non-causational outlier) notwithstanding.
I wholeheartedly disagree... (but that's mainly because vlaurelio asked if you thought Obama - not Osama - was a true believer of Islam and you ran with it... ). :grin:
