I actually wouldn't be surprised if most people more or less forget about this over time. Though that may depend on how Sony's actions in the next 6-12 months of course. People have really short memories...not just with video game consoles either. Not mad, just thought it was funny mostly. Like seeing someone post that Kevin Martin was just traded, and the source they link to in the first line says "Kevin Martin not traded." That's a pretty bad estimate I think (why would it costs Sony $318 per account?). Won't be cheap though. I figured if Sony was open to charging people for nothing, they'd have already done so. Not like they're just now hurting for money. Plus charging for a subscription wouldn't have prevented this anyway. Hopefully will be harder to justify doing so over time too, but hard to say for sure. I think there's some rumor that Sony was storing a lot of data (including passwords) in plaintext. Probably BS (never saw a good source for that), but if so, wow. Really no point in that. Think it might even be against industry standards and all that.
I'm guessing that this will go class action, and Sony will settle for somewhere between 50 and 150 million. A hefty chunk will go the lawyers, and depending on how many people join, they might see 10-20 dollars (which might be issued in PSN credit).
Q&A from PS Blog: http://blog.us.playstation.com/2011/04/27/qa-1-for-playstation-network-and-qriocity-services/ Sounds like CC data was encrypted. Hopefully somewhat strong encryption, in case they were stolen somehow (they still seem to think there's no evidence that they were). Also no security codes compromised (which most online stores ask for), but I think that's probably an industry standard (i.e., never store that data). Not encrypting personal could be a big deal if that data includes PSN passwords. The rest doesn't really matter too much I guess, but probably should have encrypted passwords too. They don't say they weren't encrypted...but they also don't say they were, which is probably more telling (notice they definitely stated CC info was encrypted). Wonder if moving to a new, more secure location has anything to do with this attack (did someone have physical access?), or if they just decided to throw it in to make things sound good. Oh and the PlayStation 360 sucks! And Nintendo is just for kids! (Am I doing it right?)
Class action lawsuits were deemed illegal today. Or something like that. Seriously. I only glanced at the article but something happened. I sound like an idiot, go Google it.
did the hacker break down the Sony super password? Spoiler up up down down left right left right b a start
I think that case said that companies can put language in the contract you sign with them that binds you to arbitration instead of the courts. Some states had ruled that practice illegal, but the supreme court said that kind of language is legit, negating those state laws. So if PSN license agreement binds any disputes to arbitration, there won't be class action.
Ironic part is that now Sony's security will probably be stronger than any other internet platform / service. If people think rationally, they should trust Sony with their personal information and credit cards now more than ever before.
There are some good news in the latest Q&A. Q: Will our download history/friends list/settings be affected by the PSN downtime? A: No, they will not. Q: Will trophies that were earned in single-player offline games during the outage be intact when the service resumes? A: These trophies are intact and will be re-synched when the network is once again operational. Q: Will my PS+ cloud saves be retrievable? A: Yes, once PSN is restored. Q: What if we have a subscription to PS3 MMOs DC Universe Online or Free Realms? Will we get compensation for that? A: From Sony Online Entertainment: “We apologize for any inconvenience players may have experienced as a result of the recent service interruption. As a global leader in online gaming, SOE is committed to delivering stable and entertaining games for players of all ages. To thank players for their patience, we will be hosting special events across our game portfolio. We are also working on a “make good” plan for players of the PS3 versions of DC Universe Online and Free Realms. Details will be available soon on the individual game websites and forums.” Q: Will there be a goodwill gesture for the time we haven’t been able to utilize PSN/Qriocity? A: We are currently evaluating ways to show appreciation for your extraordinary patience as we work to get these services back online.
I guess I'm ****ED!!!! With my luck I bet those hackers got my credit card number for sure, I've never been lucky in the past, SONOFABITCH!!!!
The picture in that link seems to imply that the hackers have CVV2 data. It is prohibited to store CVV2 data AFAIK, so not sure how hackers could get them from Sony's databases. Sony's already said they don't store that data. So either Sony is lying (and in even BIGGER trouble), or that's just a blog post about random forum members making stuff up. Or perhaps it is non-US accounts (maybe CVV2 standards are different outside the US). The UK/European branch of Sony never said that they didn't store CVV2 details (though presumably, it would still be encrypted).
New details from press release: http://blog.us.playstation.com/2011...-qriocity-services-to-be-available-this-week/
They pretty much had to do that. Didn't clarify earlier, but that press release was mostly from a press conference Kaz Hirai and crew had earlier today, where they discussed various details about the incident (plus "shameful bow" and all that). Here's a short video report: <iframe width="640" height="390" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/LeNR_HHhIGI" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> As mentioned, it was unfortunately a known vulnerability (they didn't know their system was affected by it though if I understood it right). Think I saw they are creating a position for an Information Security Officer (or something like that) so this doesn't happen again. Probably should have existed before IMO...but maybe it isn't common for some reason (not sure why not...maybe that's why so many companies are getting hacked right now). Think I also saw that the passwords were hashed...so guess that's better than plaintext (though depends on the exact implementation...might not be much better). edit: Video of the conference: http://www.multiupload.com/NAS448CZO1 I haven't checked it out yet though, so can't comment on it.
ah ****, now i lose access to PSN. I no longer have the same PS3 I originally activated my account on, nor do I have my real e-mail address.
This doesn't work I already tried this... when I select the movie I want to watch it starts to buffer then I get the login screen again. In the past, Netflix would email us a credit if there was an outage. You would think Netflix would send an email to all their customers and refunding them for this outage.
