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Houston Texans 2011 NFL Draft

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  1. The Cat

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    Sorry. The regular "anyone but Aldon Smith!!!" posts from people who have seen a random 2-minute clip on YouTube have me a little on edge this week.
     
  2. msn

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    man, I just saw this video on youtube. I sure hope they don't take freaking Aldon Smith. That guy has "bust" written all over him.
     
  3. Fyreball

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    Just replace Bear with Cat.....
     
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  4. gucci888

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    Trying to "get by" with what we have at DL is like telling me back in 2002-2005 that we need to get by with what we have at OL. If you can't win the battle up front, nothing else is going to matter all that much IMO. While I completely agree about the secondary, I do think a stud DT is a bigger need than LB. But here's how I see our LB situation:

    Ryans - Coming off a serious injury but is expected to make full recovery. I'm willing to roll the dice on his recovery, especially knowing his work ethic.

    Cushing - Struggled a little at ILB like you said but I think it had a lot to do with missing time and then being thrown into a new position. Worst comes to worst, we move him back to OLB.

    Barwin - Injury is a big concern but I don't think the position change is that big of a deal since any OLB we would draft would likely be in the same hybrid mold and could be learning a new position himself.

    Adibi - Experienced and solid OLB, could be a starter but will provide depth at the very least.

    Sharpton - Better suited inside and has looked pretty good in limited minutes. I think he could see some significant PT at ILB should Cushing need to move back out.

    Bentley - See Adibi (not a great starter but is serviceable at the least).

    Out of these 6 guys and another possible 1 or 2 picks through the draft, I'm pretty confident we can throw out a very good LB core next season. On the other hand, 3-4 defense needs a stout DT to take on the Center and Guard on every single play and I don't think we have a single one on the entire roster. I really look at what guys like Wilfork, Ratliff, Hampton, Ngata, Seymour (w/ Pats) did for their defenses.
     
  5. skenney1993

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    They need to trade back. Offer the Pats our 1st and 4th for their 1st, Carolinas 2nd, and their 3rd.

    1st - Austin DT
    Carolinas 2nd - Brooks Reed or Ayers OLB
    Our 2nd - Moore S
    Our 3rd - Matthews ILB
    Pats 3rd - Bowling G
     
  6. desihooper

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    I think if we're counting on any LB on the roster outside of Ryans, Cushing, Barwin, and Sharpton to do anything in the new scheme next year we're in trouble. Bentley and Adibi are JAG's and probably aren't worth a roster spot unless its for special teams. Adibi and Molden are the type of chronically injured, never live up to their draft status guys that plague this current regime.

    I think Ryans and Cushing (and to a lesser extent Sharpton) can be tackling machines in a 3-4 scheme. I just hope they make a lot of plays at or behind the line of scrimmage and not 10 yards down field.

    Barwin is intriguing, by all accounts, he was set to have a breakout year last year, but that ugly injury really cost him a year of development. I'll be curious to see how his athleticism translates into the OLB spot.
     
  7. J.R.

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    Mike Mayock mock draft:

    11. Robert Quinn
    Jobs are on the line in Houston, and the Texans need to upgrade the defense. With Amukamara off the board, I think they turn to the rush linebacker position as they transition to a 3-4 defense. Quinn is the protoypical 3-4 option, and he’s got all kinds of upside. There is some risk involved because we’ve never seen him stand up and play in this scheme.
     
  8. mugrakers

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    I always look for your posts regarding nba insider on nba draft night and even throughout the season. You are scary accurate with that stuff. Let's you picked the right source today as well!
     
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  9. J.R.

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    Thanks for the words though no insider or anything like that here, haha. I wish! I just find the stuff and post it when I can.
     
  10. Ottomaton

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    Judge Nelson just denied the stay. Player trades may be possible tomorrow unless the appellate court moves extra-fast.
     
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  11. jtotheb

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    Thanks for the info, sir! Made my night. Hope to start seeing some player movement very soon. Also hope to get back to suffering the misery of the Texans not doing anything significant to get better.

    Happy Draft Day Tomorrow!!
     
  12. sammy

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    The time is almost here!!!
     
  13. mikol13

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    I'm so ready!! Let's hope there is no letdown.
     
  14. Scolalist

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    I'm really thinking they trade up for Peterson
     
  15. Disciple of RP

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    Not a big deal and not sure if it's been mentioned here but both Miller and P.Pete are bigtime Cowboys fans and both have been very up front about where they'd like to end up:


    "If the Cowboys come and get me, I cannot explain the feeling that I would have," Peterson said. "That's the team I always dreamed of playing for. They're America's Team."
    "The draft is a weird process," said Miller, who grew up in the Dallas area. "You never know what happens. Hopefully, I'll be a Cowboy."



    Again, not reading too much into it...they'll surely be professionals wherever they go. I just thought it was worth mentioning; of all the teams, the two top targets just had to be Dallas fans.

    Chron link
     
  16. J.R.

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    Rick Gosselin's final mock:
    [rquoter]
    1st pick: Carolina Panthers

    Cam Newton -- QB, Auburn

    The Panthers had the worst quarterbacking in the NFL last season with only nine TD passes in 16 games. Newton gives the Panthers a chance, although his legs are likely to carry him through his rookie season.

    (Team needs: QB, WR, CB, DL)

    2nd pick: Denver Broncos

    Von Miller -- OLB, Texas A&M

    New coach John Fox is switching to a 4-3 defense and needs tackles and linebackers. He can get competitive tackles into the third round. But there’s only one impact linebacker in this draft. Miller is the value here.

    (Team needs: DL, OT, TE, LB)

    3rd pick: Buffalo Bills

    Marcell Dareus -- DT, Alabama

    The Bills finished last in the NFL in run defense in 2010. They need some bigger, nastier players to line up against the Jets and Pats. In Dareus, they land the best run defender in this draft. He also brings an attitude.

    (Team needs: QB, DL, OT, LB)

    4th pick: Cincinnati Bengals

    A.J. Green -- WR, Georgia

    This is the only shot the Bengals have of luring Carson Palmer out of retirement. Draft the best receiver in college football, release Chad Ochocinco and Terrell Owens, and give Palmer a clean canvas to resume his career.

    (Team needs: QB, WR, CB, pass rusher)

    5th pick: Arizona Cardinals

    Patrick Peterson -- CB, LSU

    When you finish 31st in offense and 29th in defense like the Cardinals of 2010, anyone you draft is going to be an upgrade. Peterson is a huge upgrade for the secondary. Arizona is surprised to see him still on the board at 5.

    (Team needs: QB, LB, pass rusher, OT)

    6th pick: Cleveland Browns

    Julio Jones -- WR, Alabama

    The Browns need a lead receiver to accelerate the development of QB Colt McCoy. Voila — Jones was a walk-in starter at Alabama, and he’ll be a walk-in starter at Cleveland. He averaged almost 15 yards per career catch.

    (Team needs: WR, CB, OT, DE)

    7th pick: San Francisco 49ers

    Blaine Gabbert -- QB, Missouri

    Jim Harbaugh is a quarterback maker — first Josh Johnson at the University of San Diego and then Andrew Luck at Stanford. In his first year as head coach of the 49ers, Harbaugh wants a quarterback he can build a team around.

    (Team needs: QB, G, def. playmakers)

    8th pick: Tennessee Titans

    Jake Locker -- QB, Washington

    The Titans want to put the Vince Young era behind them. Locker provides Tennessee a key element Young lacked — leadership. Locker was a two-year captain at Washington and a very charismatic player.

    (Team needs: QB, DL, LB, S)

    9th pick: Dallas Cowboys

    Tyron Smith -- OT, Southern Cal

    The Cowboys have four starters on the offensive line who turn 32 this season. This group needs to get younger — and what better way than to select the youngest player in this draft? Smith turns 21 in December.

    (Team needs: OT, G, DE, CB)

    10th pick: Washington Redskins

    Christian Ponder -- QB, Florida State

    Mike Shanahan is not going to enter a second season with Donovan McNabb, so the Redskins spent all day Wednesday trying to move up. Gabbert was the target. Failing there, they take the next best QB on the board.

    (Team needs: QB, WR, CB, youth)

    11th pick: Houston Texans

    Aldon Smith -- DE, Missouri

    The Texans are switching to a 3-4 defensive scheme, and Smith can play anywhere in it. He has the frame to bulk up to play end or the speed and athleticism to play linebacker. The NFL’s 30th-ranked defense needs help.

    (Team needs: DL, LB, DB, WR)

    12th pick: Minnesota Vikings

    Andy Dalton -- QB, TCU

    Like the Titans, the Vikings need to draft a rookie quarterback and play him immediately. Dalton brings a wealth of experience — four years as a starter, 42 career victories and more than 1,300 career passes.

    (Team needs: QB, DL, OT, CB)

    13th pick: Detroit Lions

    Nick Fairley -- DT, Auburn

    Ndamukong Suh was perhaps the best defensive tackle in the NFL as a rookie in 2011. Adding Fairley makes Suh even better. Fairley is the best inside pass rusher in this draft. The Lions are building a formidable front.

    (Team needs: LB, CB, OT, WR)

    14th pick: St. Louis Rams

    Mark Ingram -- HB, Alabama

    The Rams would love to draft a wide receiver for Sam Bradford, but there are none worthy of this selection. St. Louis will continue to give Bradford weapons, though — the best running back in this draft.

    (Team needs: Pass rusher, CB, WR, S)

    15th pick: Miami Dolphins

    Mike Pouncey -- C, Florida

    The only need the Dolphins can still address here is the offensive line, and Pouncey gives them two-position versatility. Like his brother Maurkice, a first-round pick of the Steelers in 2010, Mike can play guard or center.

    (Team needs: OL, OLB, CB, QB)

    16th pick: Jacksonville Jaguars

    Ryan Kerrigan -- DE, Purdue

    You can’t expect to survive with a paltry pass rush in a division with Peyton Manning and Matt Schaub. The Jaguars managed only 26 sacks last season. Kerrigan had almost half that (121/2) last fall at Purdue.

    (Team needs: DE, S, LB, QB)

    17th pick: New England Patriots

    Cameron Jordan -- DE, California

    The Patriots are likely to trade out of this spot. But Jordan here could be an inducement to stay put. He’s a 3-4 end who fits the size prototype (6-4, 287) Bill Belichick covets. Bigger is always better in New England.

    (Team needs: OL, DE, OLB, HB)

    18th pick: San Diego Chargers

    Corey Liuget -- DT, Illinois

    Liuget was a dominant inside player in a 4-3 scheme in the Big Ten. The Chargers envision him playing the edge in their 3-4 scheme. He has excellent hands, a necessity for head-up combat with offensive tackles.

    (Team needs: OT, ILB, WR, pass rusher)

    19th pick: New York Giants

    Nate Solder -- OT, Colorado

    Like the Cowboys, the Giants need to get younger on the offensive line. Solder is the best blind-side protector in this draft, and he’s going to get better. He’s only played the position for three years.

    (Team needs: OT, G, LB, KR)

    20th pick: Tampa Bay Buccaneers

    Robert Quinn -- DE, North Carolina

    The Bucs have the worst pass rush in the NFC — just 26 sacks in 521 pass attempts. Quinn is the best edge pass rusher on the board. But his stock slid this draft season because of a bout with cancer in high school.

    (Team needs: G, pass rusher, CB, OT)

    21st pick: Kansas City Chiefs

    Gabe Carimi -- OT, Wisconsin

    The Chiefs want to get bigger, tougher and younger up front. KC has one of the NFL’s best runners in Jamaal Charles — and Carimi has spent a career blocking in one of the best run-oriented offenses in college football.

    (Team needs: DT, C, WR, QB)

    22nd pick: Indianapolis Colts

    Anthony Castonzo -- OT, Boston College

    Because of the run of quarterbacks at the top, a lot of quality players slid, including Castonzo, CB Prince Amukamara and DE J.J. Watt. As long as Peyton Manning is in Indy, the priority will be protecting him.

    (Team needs: KR, def. size, QB, LB, OL)

    23rd pick: Philadelphia Eagles

    Jimmy Smith -- CB, Colorado

    If the Eagles are to continue their dominance in the NFC East, they must find someone who can cover Dez Byrant. Mission accomplished. Smith is the biggest and perhaps most talented cover corner in this draft.

    (Team needs: DL, OL, CB, LB)

    24th pick: New Orleans Saints

    Adrian Clayborn -- DE, Iowa

    You have to stop the run to survive in a division with DeAngelo Williams, Michael Turner and LaGarrette Blount. So the Saints need some big bodies up front to bolster the NFL’s 16th-ranked run defense.

    (Team needs: DE, DT, LB, S)

    25th pick: Seattle Seahawks

    Prince Amukamara -- CB, Nebraska

    The Seahawks need help for the NFL’s 27th-ranked pass defense, and Amukamara represents sliding value. He has the size (6-0, 206) to line up against physical wideouts Larry Fitzgerald and Michael Crabtree in the NFC West.

    (Team needs: OT, G, C, QB)

    26th pick: Baltimore Ravens

    J.J. Watt -- DE, Wisconsin

    Another sliding value. Watt headed into the process touted as the best end for a 3-4 scheme — and he falls into the lap of a top-10 defense. Good players tend to find the Ravens wherever they are on the draft board.

    (Team needs: CB, WR, pass rusher, OT)

    27th pick: Atlanta Falcons

    Phil Taylor -- DT, Baylor

    Same synopsis as New Orleans above. You need bulk up front to compete in a division that wants to run the football — and Taylor is one of the bulkiest players in this draft at 334 pounds.

    (Team needs: OL, NT, WR, LB)

    28th pick: New England Patriots

    Danny Watkins -- G, Baylor

    Watkins is the safest pick in the entire draft — the one player you can confidently say will be in the Pro Bowl in 2012. He’s the best guard on the board, and some NFL teams were looking at him as both a center and tackle.

    (Team needs: OL, DE, OLB, HB)

    29th pick: Chicago Bears

    Marvin Austin -- DT, North Carolina

    The Bears need an elite tackle to replace departed Pro Bowler Tommie Harris. Austin missed the 2010 season because of an NCAA suspension but plays with great power and a great motor. A top-10 defense just got better.

    (Team needs: LB, DT, RB, QB)

    30th pick: New York Jets

    Derrick Sherrod -- OT, Mississippi State

    There are only five offensive tackles in this draft who can walk in as starters and Sherrod is the last one. He started three years at left tackle at Mississippi State but projects as a right tackle in the NFL.

    (Team needs: CB, OL, WR)

    31st pick: Pittsburgh Steelers

    Cameron Heyward -- DE, Ohio State

    The Steelers need to get younger at end in their 3-4 scheme, and Heyward provides them that opportunity. He’s a high achiever — a four-year starter, team captain and MVP of a Big Ten championship team.

    (Team needs: 2 CB, DE, OT)

    32nd pick: Green Bay Packers

    Aaron Williams -- CB, Texas

    The Super Bowl champions have one of the youngest teams in the NFL and few needs. They are in a position to draft the best player on their board. That’s Williams, who can play either cornerback or safety.

    (Team needs: DL, OL, pass rusher, CB)



    Team with no first-round pick

    48th pick: Oakland Raiders

    Dontay Moch -- DE, Nevada

    Al Davis built the Raiders on power and speed in the 1960s and clings to that philosophy a half-century later. Moch is the fastest pass rusher in this draft with 4.46 speed in the 40.[/rquoter]

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    Todd McShay still saying or talking about a potential AZ/HOU swap(5/11).

    Also Cleveland could be a trade partner though just speculation, like everything else at this point.

    And unless the Texans are going to trade away most of their picks, Von Miller seems to be out of range. Miller-to-Denver seems to be picking up steam, although could be smoke.
     
  17. Rockets34Legend

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    Wow, Prince fell to #25?!? That's insane.
     
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    Not to mention Quinn falling to #20. That's the most distinct mock I've seen so far.
     
  20. weslinder

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    Nick Fairley was the best player in college last year, he's going to be a stud. He won't drop that far, but if he did, and the Lions could line him up beside Suh, they would immediately become Super Bowl contenders. I can't even imagine how much havoc they would wreak together.
     

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