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Would you trade kyle lowry for Ricky Rubio?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by ansfjs73, Apr 25, 2011.

  1. adboy

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    not right now...we have to see just how good lowry can be
     
  2. Artestsuckskobe

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    COME ON! Kyle lowry has not even started for us an entire season and you think he may have had a career year??? thats ridiculous I say let this team jell and add a better sf and someone that can backup hayes on somedays and start somedays.... patterson will be our starter by midseason... I have not given up at thabeet at this point but Im not counting on him either ....
     
  3. DaDakota

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    Here is an excellent article by our very own Clutch:

    http://rockets.clutchfans.net/1503/why-kyle-lowry-could-become-the-next-aaron-brooks/

    I am not saying Rubio is better than Kyle, I am saying that the organization has to take some big risks on players that have superstar potential, and it is pretty well known that Rubio has that potential.

    It may not work out there are no guarantees, it just seems like a deal the organization would have to make at this point.

    DD
     
  4. kidcave9

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    i think we should be able to get a better package than just rubio.
     
  5. javal_lon

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    Nash, Paul, D.Williams, Rondo,Rose, Parker, Curry.....Im sorry just thinking out loud!!!
     
  6. javal_lon

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    I'd rather take a risk on a big than a flashy point guard that cant shoot....
     
  7. apollo33

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    Implying Rubio has the potential to be a superstar. However that potential is rarely backed up by any solid evidence other than once in a while flashy pass.
     
  8. wekko368

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    He said top 10. You listed 7. Are you still thinking?
     
  9. javal_lon

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    that qualifies as borderline superstar potential in today's game....gust
     
  10. aeolus13

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    This. Thus far, Lowry looks like a bargain. I don't mind including him in a trade, but only if it's for a superstar.
     
  11. Easy

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    A year ago, this question might make sense, even though I'd probably still take Lowry over Rubio. Now, that's just not much to consider. Why would you risk giving up a proven top 10 PG for a totally unproven guy whose potential is debatable at best?
     
  12. houstonrockets0

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    We need a big man not a point guard? After watching what Chris Paul has been doing with so so talent in New Orleans against the Lakers in this series should make you think we need nothing but a better point guard leading the Rockets. Chris Paul is making former Rockets (Trevor Ariza and Carl Landry) look like all-star caliber players. Think about what an elite point guard would do for our team that we have right now? The Hornets may very well end up beating the Lakers. Trevor Ariza suddenly looks like a player that we would love to have back. The Rockets have to have an all-star caliber point guard to compete in the West it is as simple as that. Aaron Brooks didn't get the job done and neither is or will Kyle Lowry. Until the Rockets address the need at point guard that people who actually know talent and basketball can blatantly see the Rockets are destined for mediocrity.
     
  13. JoeBarelyCares

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    After the smoke clears from the lockout, offer Lowry and Scola for Chris Paul. With Scola on board, NO could let David West (UFA) walk, maybe resign Landry to reunite Scolandry.
     
  14. wallyj12

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    Why does everyone fall in love with these mythological, over seas players? Just because they are new and haven't been in the NBA yet? It's like whenever I start on a franchise on a brand new NBA Live or 2K. Ill start a team and the first thing I'll do is put together lopsided packages in favor of the other team to accumulate as many new rookies as possible. Why even trade for Rubio now when there are about 15 others just like him somewhere in Europe that have yet to be filmed and put on Youtube.
     
  15. rmoreno

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    How is it KNOWN, everything he has done has been in the European league. And AGAIN he just had his worse year in the European league, so how does this translate to a potential superstar in the NBA. Ohhhhh but wait vassilis spanoulis had that same potential, and we all know how that turned out. :rolleyes:
     
  16. apollo33

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    False, Chris Paul did not make TAriza and Landry look like all stars. They still play like the role players they are, and a big worse in fact.

    And were you not watching TAriza during the season, he shot the exact brick fest percentage he did in Houston and worse.

    Trading away your young point guard, who has just shown he has all star potential, for a guy that has never played in the NBA, and has never backed up his "super star potential" with solid evidence other than a few flashy passes, is not going to get you out of mediocrity.

    No one is expecting Lowry to be Chris Paul, and he is getting the job done. He is a solid piece to a good team, unless you get a solid piece in return, you don't make the deal.
     
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    Can I haz panic? Wow you are jumping the gun, and the logic ship in the name of desperation. Step back from the ledge.

    why when lowry has proven to be a darn good player, and showed he is for real. I realize you are still bitter about brooks, but we do not have to make any moves at this point. Our need is not a flashy guard that doesn't play any defense. besides rubio looks thin and weak. We are already questionable on the defense side as it is..

    I would be excited to see rubio and love to have him on our team no doubt..but not at cost of lowry. rubio could be a game changer, but lowry is proving that too.

    I think if anything we need to stay as is, and maybe add some height/defense on the inside. We need an ibaka type player in the middle. I can see the thunder going far ,and I can see lowry and martin being the ying and yang to westbrook and durant. Hayes and some other crasher would be more than ibaka and perkins... add my boy yao and we dont HAVE to do much of anything different for next year... my 2 cents
     
  18. SamFisher

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    Welcome back, I see you've changed quite a bit!
     
  19. anchel

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    Mi opinion about Rubio. He was a very intriguing player 2 years ago, never a sure star like is thought that Kyre Iriving is going to be, for example, but at 18 y.o. he had shown signs of a special player. That precocious understanding of the game and maturity on the court, mixed with the handlings and the size; that special talent at the vision and passing instincts; theoretically a head prepared to compete, to take the challenges and even become a leader; the defensive potential at his position... Let's say he could become a Jason Kidd type of player.

    What we see 2 years later is a player who barely shows any kind of progress. His body hasn't developed favorably, he looks even slower and unathletic than before; his confidence has completely dissapeared, his previous freshness and passion for the game have dissapeared. His former brightness is a mistery at this moment, has become a lineal PG, he doesn't try nothing different (his previously typical adventurous plays) and when he does it, it ends in TO. His shooting mechanics surely need an important change, he's shooting terrible %s right now, he has no confidence in his overall game.

    If you're an NBA GM, you expect a lot more of progress in these 2 years from a 18 y.o. kid with -theoretically- that kind of potential. Right now he couldn't play a single minute in the NBA. Shawn Livingston is a better player than him. Right now. It's safe to say that Rubio will improve his game going to the NBA, because he desperately needs a change of environment. Frankly, it has been shown that his current team/coach couldn't be a worse fit for him, he needed a completely different situation (My guess is that if he had gone to the NBA 2 years ago, he would be now an improved player -he's playing nowadays much worse basketball than he did in Joventut of Badalona.

    He needs to regain his confidence, his natural game, possibly more freedom on the court and more responsability in the offense... And likely, he's going to get all that in the NBA. So it's fair to say that he'll change his current terrible dynamic, and he's still very young to grow as a player.

    I truly think that the NBA will help him a lot. But superstar potential... those are strong words, I highly doubt he has that potential. Plus, he has shown worrying signs of mental weakness looking to the future. He will have to manage with a lot of pressure in the NBA, and pressure has beated him viciously so far.

    Having in Kyle a championship caliber PG (I don't think he will become an all-star, but still I'm convinced that he can be very valid as starting PG of a championship team), I would try to look for different changes at other positions... unless we're talking about a Chris Paul, obvious.

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  20. houstonrockets0

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    KYLE LOWRY DOES NOT HAVE ALL STAR POTENTIAL WHAT DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND ABOUT THAT? HE IS AT BEST A 6TH MAN ON A GOOD NBA TEAM NOT A STARTING POINT GUARD! I know your a fan like I am of the Rockets, but dang quit being so biased and talking up a player who is MEDIOCRE at best. I would ship Lowry out for a gamble on Rubio any day of the week. We're basically trading a 6th man for a player who could possibly be the next great point guard. Kyle Lowry has simply maxed out his potential as a player. Lowry is a role player nothing more. Unless you have a Kobe Bryant or LeBron James like superstar on your team your point guard cannot just be a role player if you expect to win. He has to be a game changer.
     

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