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Playoff Matchup: Spurs (1) vs. Memphis (8)

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by k-money, Apr 14, 2011.

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  1. Spurs in 4

    8 vote(s)
    4.4%
  2. Spurs in 5

    23 vote(s)
    12.6%
  3. Spurs in 6

    34 vote(s)
    18.6%
  4. Spurs in 7

    30 vote(s)
    16.4%
  5. Memphis in 4

    2 vote(s)
    1.1%
  6. Memphis in 5

    10 vote(s)
    5.5%
  7. Memphis in6

    53 vote(s)
    29.0%
  8. Memphis in 7

    23 vote(s)
    12.6%
  1. javal_lon

    javal_lon Member

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    Rose yeah...He's pretty much hit his ceiling as far as stats/productivity...The way he's playing is great but in the future could become a problem...Durant I think isnt overrated though
     
  2. JayGoogle

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    Overrated is overrated.

    Rose will be overrated when he wins his MVP award then.

    Also No series lead is safe when playing the Spurs, I hope no one is counting them out. Yeah they don't look too good now but they are like cockaroaches. Besides they are only one game behind.
     
  3. what

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    Gay has more game winners than durant. Pull up gay game winners and you'll see durant getting schooled by rudy not the other way around.

    Again, if you only watch durant and look at the numbers then I can see where you are coming from, but the fact of the matter is that gay is as unguardable as durant, it's a fact.
     
  4. javal_lon

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    Look , Im with you as far as people on here look more at stats rather than impact on the game....game winners are great standards to go by as far as clutch performers.... But being better than Durant as a whole is a hard issue to agree to... But Im with you on sticking to what YOU perceive !!!..***** these other folks!!!
     
  5. what

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    I was responding to your statement that Rudy wasn't close to durant, not making a statement that I believe rudy is better/ If you want to know my feelings on that read a few posts up.
     
  6. Kwame

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    First of all it was +11, not +13

    Second, Z-Bo was -1, I guess that means Battier contributed more to winning the game than Randolph did :rolleyes:

    Third, get out of here with that weak +/- garbage.
     
  7. francis 4 prez

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    why must you be so angry at seeing shane battier once again help his team dominate on the scoreboard? before trading for battier, 0 playoff wins in franchise history. after trading for battier, 2 playoff wins in 3 games. that seems like a pretty good plus/minus.
     
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    no, it's very much the opposite of a fact. durant has led the league in scoring for 2 straight years. gay hasn't cracked the 20 ppg mark. durant has done his scoring at a very high efficiency that is about 10% more efficient than gay's middling efficiency. when player A is scoring about 40% more and doing it 10% more efficiently, it's pretty hard to argue player B is every bit as unguardable.
     
  9. Kwame

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    I know you're not serious, but I'll play along. Memphis' playoff record with Battier: 2-13. That seems like a pretty bad plus/minus.
     
  10. what

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    10 % efficiency? You do realize that Gay's fg % was higher than durant's right?
     
  11. what

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    This is how we roll. :cool:

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  12. T-mac&Yao=RING

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    You're right 2-1 isnt safe but just 3 games you can see that Memphis is a better team. The Spurs look old and slow.
     
  13. clippy

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    That's weird. I pulled up gay game winner and all I got was this picture:
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  14. roslolian

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    You do realize FG% is the wrong way to account for efficiency? You should look at TS%, which exposes the fact that Rudy Gay avoids contact and free throws like the flu, and that his FG% is quite high because he only takes 2 threes a game. Also take note that Rudy Gay has both Gasol and Randolph dominating inside and drawing double teams, so he actually has an easier time. The only other superb offensive option on the Thunder is WB.
     
  15. A_3PO

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    If Rudy Gay and KD switched teams, the Grizzlies would have won 55 games and the Thunder 46. If they meshed, KD and Z-Bo would absolutely crush defenses. KD playing with a dynamic post player would be unfair.
     
  16. opticon

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    Rudy is a good player with amazing physical tools. What keeps him from being great is his Mind set.

    Durant has a killer instinct and wants to take over every single night. That is simply not Rudy Gay.

    Very similar to Joe Johnson and Kobe. What physical tools does Kobe have over Joe? Probably not a single one. But Kobe goes for what he wants and does not care about anything but the goal at hand.
     
  17. what

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    To be fair, I don't think that our current win total should be used as an argument for KD.

    The reality is that the Thunder are one year ahead of the grizzlies, and this year we had a rash of injuries to deal with and we were still finding ourselves in the beginning of the season whereas the thunder knew who they were.

    Like I said, I'm not saying that KD isn't better. It's just closer than what people think.

    @opticon: very good point. Rudy is certainly less willing to take over games, quarters, halfs, like KD does. Rudy plays within the offense much more. This is the main reason people believe that Rudy is far behind KD.

    @roslolian It is funny that you mentioned Rudy's 3 point shot attempts. This way I can exaplin to you something that you'd only know if you were a grizzlies fan. Take a look at rudy's 3 point attempts in his second season. You'll notice that it is roughly double what it is now and in his 3rd season. To explain why this is, is the fact that after Rudy's secound season, there was a concerted effort for rudy to get to the foul line. So many of the shots that he was taking from the 3 point line became drives to the basket. And yet, even with that, Rudy's fta didn't significantly improve. A lot of that has to do with the fact that Rudy and the grizzlies in general don't get the same calls as a superstar like Durant gets. Doesn't necessarily mean that he is trying to avoid contact.
     
  18. flamingdts

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    Yep.

    It would be reminiscent of Yao and McGrady pick and roll, the unstoppable bread and butter play.
     
  19. what

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    The grizzlies have a chip on their shoulder.

     
  20. t_mac1

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    KD isn't that great of a playmaker, so i doubt they would use the pick and roll a lot. KD is better as a screener b/c he would be in the position to score. that's why he's better w/ westbrook on the pick and roll.

    however, a post player would open up so much for KD on the perimeter so he would get more open looks as he rolls/curls around those screens.
     

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