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If you were the GM.......what would you have done different ?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by OlajuwonFan81, Apr 21, 2011.

  1. Sanity2disChaos

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    Presti....Riley.....have done better.....the Lakers GM....maybe Ole Otis in Orlando...
     
  2. meh

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    I totally agree. If Morey actually knows how to deal with people, there's no way Bosh decides to go to Miami with Lebron and Wade rather than KMart and washed up Yao in Houston. If Morey knows people, Melo would definitely forgo NY and decide Houston is the place to be.

    If Morey had been more like Carrol Dawson and handed up multi-yeared extensions to the likes of Alston or Kirk Synder or Von Wafer, the Rockets would be in the championship right now with all the superstars gathering here.
     
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  3. meh

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    Morey's biggest mistake was not jumping ship after the Yao debacle. Imagine if he were in NY and can assemble pieces around Melo/Amare and limitless payroll flexibility. Or go to somewhere like Minnesota and be guaranteed top 5 picks consecutive years to draft the next Durant/Westbrook combo and no fan expectations. Or gone to Miami so that he can get Lebron/Wade/Bosh role players like Brooks/Lowry/Lee/Landry for peanuts and make them perennial locks for the championship.
     
  4. da_juice

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    There are maybe 12 superstars in the league at most, most of them are locked up. It's hard enough to get one superstar, what makes you think we're going to get two?
     
  5. DaDakota

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    Fantastic post Easy.

    DD
     
  6. Nook

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    Sam Presti is a very good GM... but look at how high those draft picks were, when he selected Durant and Westbrook especially.

    As far as recruiting free agents... not an easy thing to do when you either have no real cap space, or your best players are always hurt.
     
  7. pbthunder

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    I think Morey is awesome, but I do have a few criticisms:

    1) He hasn't managed to bring the superstar - yet.

    2) He never wants to lose a trade, and I believe that he has let good trades go because of this. As I like to say, he's not going to trade 8 points worth of player for that 7 points worth of defensive center.

    3) He keeps too many players; he should leave a spot open. We lost JT for nothing because of this, and possibly, Ish. He should have traded JT for the best 2nd-rounder possible, sooner.
     
  8. pbthunder

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    When you refer to the big hole at center that the fat man has...
     
  9. Kojirou

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    Go to a Magic forum. Ask them what they think about Otis.

    People keep saying this. The question I have.........is how he's going to do that?

    Regardless of what Morey says or does not say to the media, the Rockets will be active in trade talks. As they do not have a superstar, and are seeking one, they will thus generally be in negotiations with trades. And this information will inevitably leak out. If Morey never said a word to the media, that would not stop word from getting out that the Rockets are trying to get Bosh and Melo. And as players like Bosh and Melo have more value than players on the Rockets, everyone's name is going to pop up as pieces to a Bosh or Melo as long as the Rockets will discuss things in trades.

    Really, the only way Morey could stop that is to say "These players are not going to be traded.", or to go ahead and try to ride this roster. And that opens up a whole new bigger can of worms.
     
  10. htownswami

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    one or two is what i said. not just two.

    if other teams can get, why not rox? you just need to work on it restlessly until you get. each day passes, we are one day closer to get 1 OR 2 superstar.:grin:
     
  12. coachbadlee

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    I admit, Morey is a good draft guy. His only miss, as far as big men, was the '08 draft. I am glad that we have #14 again this year because i know that Morey will pull out another great player like he did with Patterson last season.
     
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    1. If I were the GM, I would have offered Courtney Lee and the Ariza TPE for Gortat. Don't know if Morey did that or not.

    2. I would've traded Yao and $3million cash to Sacramento at the deadline for a $17 TPE. Don't know if Morey tried to do that. That would have been a money maker for Sacramento.

    3. I would've traded Jeffries and $3 million cash to Cleveland or some other under the cap team for nothing giving us another TPE.
     
  14. DCkid

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    Just in general, I would say just don't overvalue your players to the point it hurts the team.

    I also don't know if I agree with this strategy of acquiring these extremely low probability of panning out guys like Williams and Thabeet, and putting so much hope in them that it contributes to you getting rid of a hall of fame coach for not giving them a chance. These guys are most likely not going to pan out anyway. They weren't even getting playing time on their prior teams that are no better or much worse than the Rockets. These moves seemed like a desperate attempt to find a "diamond in the DEEP DEEP rough," after realizing it was going to be more difficult to get established superstars through free agency or trades than he expected. I think that is a valid strategy, as long as those moves don't hurt the team very much and you're not banking our future on them.
     
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    I don't think anyone is upset with the moves that Morey made. The only thing I'm questioning is how he's handled certain things, things being coaches and players. Coaches and players around the league talk.

    What coach, in their right mind, would play Williams or Thabeet?
    Maybe the best thing for this Rockets, since we're really thirsty for a superstar, is for Morey to coach this team for the next two years and get the top 2 picks.


    I see and hear this a lot, " Well Rick was brought here to coach superstars. He doesn't have any." So if Monica Bellucci wants to have sex with you, you're going to turn her down?

    What would have I done differently? Resigned Coach and wear a tie.
     
  16. crash5179

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    Sam Presti gets an A+++ and you could not ask any GM to have done a better job. However he has had 4 picks in the top 5 of the draft and his trade for Perkins was accomplished using Jeff Green who was the number 5 pick in his draft.

    James Harden 3rd pick overall 2009 draft
    Kevin Durant 2nd pick overall 2007 draft
    Serge Ibalka 24th pick overall 2008 draft
    Russell Westbrook 4th pick overall 2008 draft
    Kendrick Perkins traded with Jeff Green 5th pick overall 2007 draft


    Daryl Morey by comparison has had only 1 pick in the top 20 and only three 1st round picks. What do you think Presti would have done with that? By comparison what did DM do in those drafts?

    Aaron Brooks 26th pick overall 2007 draft
    Carl Landry 31st overall pick 2007 draft
    Luis Scola aquired via trade of 2nd round pick and VSpan
    Ron Artest acquired via Donte Green 28th pick overall 2008 draft
    Kyle Lowry acquired via trade for Rafer Alston
    Chase Budinger 44th pick overall 2009 draft
    Kevin Martin acquired via Carl Landry 31st pick 2007 draft


    DM's lone lottery pick was Patrick Patterson 14th overall pick 2010 draft

    One GM had 4 top 5 picks while the other had only one pick in the top 20. Were not exactly comparing apples to apples. DM certainly has a better track record regarding trades. Which one of those moves did not make the Rockets better and add more talent?

    And if DM would have been the GM of Miami there is no doubt in my mind that he would have landed Bosh and James to team with Wade.
     
  17. Petey-N-Htown

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    DeAndre Jordan.

    Amare.

    Kept Rick Adelman.

    Can I do that? Is that allowed?
     
  18. crash5179

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    can you do what? :confused:
     
  19. rhester

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    GM's usually pull the trigger on the obvious too late
    Likely Les Alexander would have stopped me but the right thing to do was...

    After firing Van Gundy( which I would not have done if it was a GM decision)

    And after hiring Adelman which I would not have done unless it was Les's decision...


    1. I would have shopped both TMac and Yao- I would have taken a killer offer for either or both because the team needed to be rebuilt.

    A healthy TMac and Yao at that time would have brought at least one superstar who at the time was less injury prone or a young future star

    plus many high draft picks

    I think you had a shot at Dwayne Wade, Pau Gasol, Kevin Garnett, Dwight Howard, maybe Chris Paul, Kevin Durrant and others.

    Plus high draft picks.....

    In sports more GM's should use the Warren Buffett strategy buy low sell high

    When a player is peaking but has issues (injury, age, attitude etc) sell high
    When you have a strong draft class ahead stock picks
    When you can get 2 future stars for one established star who peaks- sell

    I knew the Rockets would have to rebuild when I watched Adelman start coaching, Adelman is a good coach but he and TMac were never on the same page, it was really bad between the 2 of them, and Yao was too injury prone and was being asked to move more instead of leaving him parked on the low block in a half court set....

    It's too late, same problem with the Astros

    If you aren't going to win a championship with your current strategy realize it and change your paradigm
     
  20. vick

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    You are soooo right, without a good, big center, signing Bosh or Melo wouldnt work:grin::grin::grin:
     

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