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What makes Stan Van Gundy better than Rick Adelman?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by TheFreak, Apr 19, 2011.

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  1. ApuN

    ApuN Member

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    "Panic" Van Gundy is an okay coach -- just okay.

    Seems to handle the regular season okay, but he gets discombobulated when its time to win the "big one" in the playoffs

    He was voted one of the most annoying coaches to play for by a recent players survey and if he gets fired, that will be the second time within five seasons the guy has underachieved. Besides, he probably kills any chance of Howard wanting to come here as a free agent

    I dont think so
     
    #21 ApuN, Apr 19, 2011
  2. clutch citizen

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    Easy. Dwight Howard
     
    #22 clutch citizen, Apr 19, 2011
  3. Amel

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    more overrated than JVG

    pass
     
    #23 Amel, Apr 19, 2011
  4. Easy

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    Thanks for the write up. Sounds like the VG brothers have a lot in common.
     
    #24 Easy, Apr 19, 2011
  5. cheke64

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    I don't like Rick but to compare him to SVG is an insult to Rick. SVG is just a bar above Erik Spoelstra and should've been fired 3 years ago.
     
    #25 cheke64, Apr 19, 2011
  6. CCorn

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    He gets the ladies.

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  7. AFS

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  8. rock4ever

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    This is similar to the Bosh episode last offseason. Throw out a high profile name (SVG, Sloan), get everybody excited, even though there's no chance IN HELL we'll get him.

    A. Why the hell would SVG be interested in Houston

    B. The Rockets embarrassed his brother in his firing, do you think he'll actually wanna go through that again.

    C. The team wants to tank until we get a superstar. No way a coach who actually wins would be attracted to Houston

    D. Lastly, he's NOT EVEN AVAILABLE but the Houston media's throwing his name out as if he is.

    CONCLUSION: I'd bet the Astros win the world series before SVG considers the Rockets. It's not gonna happen
     
    #28 rock4ever, Apr 20, 2011
  9. DonnyMost

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    no one, including the rockets, think svg is a better coach than adelman.
     
    #29 DonnyMost, Apr 20, 2011
  10. JuanValdez

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    You can make one of these threads for every coaching prospect who ever gets his name associated with the Rockets. Who's going to compete with a HOF coach? As the Rockets keep saying, it's got nothing to do with Adelman's performance.

    And, I think equating playing young players with "hunger" or to even think that's what Morey wants his coach to do is ridiculous. There is a lot more to player development than to give them minutes in NBA games that they haven't earned.
     
    #30 JuanValdez, Apr 20, 2011
  11. TheFreak

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    Okay - how about what makes SVG (or Brown, or anyone) better for THIS TEAM? It appears to me that both guys relied on vets extensively in their first years as coaches (and other than those guys, a lot of the candidates mentioned would be in their first year if they were to be hired), something Rick gets bashed for here. From what I can tell, Rick relied on vets less than those guys and performed better at the same time.

    Okay, so what makes a "hungry" coach and how will that benefit the Rockets? If the coach is "hungry" for wins, he's going to play the guys that give him the best chance to do that. What else could he be hungry for that would help the Rockets? Will he have a hunger for playing the guys the GM tells him to play? If that's the case then why even have a coach at all?
     
    #31 TheFreak, Apr 21, 2011
  12. Old Man Rock

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    This was never about Rick's coaching ability and always about Les being pissed at Adelman.

    He wanted Adelman to attend the "Save the planet feed the Animals" Vegan Benefit Dinner at the Hilton and Adelman didn't show up and instead was spotted at "Ruth Chris" wearing socks and a leather jacket and ordering a 24 ounce steak.

    Since then it's been downhill.
     
    #32 Old Man Rock, Apr 22, 2011
  13. conquistador#11

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    Mr. Jeremy is Old school. If he sees the thabeet struggling in practice, he's not going to play him over somebody that is more deserving over minutes. Unless Morey's magical tipping calculator is coaching the team, this is true for every mentally stabled coach.
    Otherwise why PRACTICE!??..practice.
     
    #33 conquistador#11, Apr 22, 2011
  14. bloop

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    Adelman isn't out because he's not a good coach. Everyone understands he's a great coach, especially in the style that he runs.

    He's out due to $$$ Les doesn't want to spend on coaches and personnel and philosophical differences with management

    After 4 years of injuries, treading water, overdelivering and never quite seeing promise come to fruition it's probably best for everyone that they split, especially in midst of breaking up the team. Adelman will land somewhere else and hopefully Houston will find a coach better suited to Morey and ownership.

    The only ppl I feel bad for are the players. Guys like Chuck, Scola, Battier, Yao who gave all they had and performed admirable given the dealt cards to see it all busted in the end and come to nothing.
     
    #34 bloop, Apr 23, 2011
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    A healthy center.
     
    #35 nolimitnp, Apr 24, 2011
  16. Dreamin

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    Spot On with you points, all except C. The Rockets will never tank. Trading Battier and letting Rick go are no indications of tanking. This team will rebuild and try to make playoffs - on the fly - both at the same time.

    We needed a coach who is willing to put up with all the changes until we find a championship caliber core - Aldeman wasn't willing to do so. Making these changes cant be avoided. It is a must - we move pieces to get us better pieces, we acquire pieces of value to other teams that will attract those teasm when trading their Stars. It has nothing to do with tanking.

    The new coach will also be expected to wing games at the same time. We still have a roster that can make the playoffs. Aldeman screwed it up by playing Brooks, Bud, Hill and Miller too much instead of Ish, Pat and JJ earlier.
     
    #36 Dreamin, Apr 24, 2011
  17. anchel

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    #37 anchel, Apr 27, 2011
  18. ashishduh

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    I'm not sure who you're trying to convince. It's only the r****ded vocal minority that thinks there's such a thing as a coach that "plays the young guys lolz".
     
    #38 ashishduh, Apr 27, 2011
  19. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    Stan does have great plays.

    Plays out of timeouts

    Plays with little time on the clock

    Plays for crutch time.


    Rick? He doesn't run plays with any effectiveness out of timeouts. He just let's the players move and "try" to score.
     
    #39 REEKO_HTOWN, Apr 27, 2011
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